#2490 - RZA

[00:12] So the guy that did your bar, Flying Guillotine, is the same guy that did the mothership. [00:19] Oh, wow. Richard Weiss. Yeah, Richard. Yeah. Yeah. Richard, the same designer architect who did your bar. I have a flying guillotine T-shirt that I wear sometimes. I was trying to find it this morning. I couldn't fucking find it. I wore mine yesterday. I went to the animal draft house and did a screening of the film and I. [00:36] I said, would it? [00:37] Would it be appropriate to wear my Staten Island draft house to them? And the guy there, he was like, he wanted to wear his, because he stole a stack in Staten Island, but he couldn't find them all. I've got it somewhere. I've got it somewhere in my house, and I was scrambling this morning looking for it, looking for that T-shirt, couldn't find it. Well, we've got to send you some more. Definitely, definitely. So it's great to see you again, man. Back at you, man. Back at you just... [01:05] I got questions for you. Well, I was thinking like, like, [01:10] Well, I remember you had this place in Woodland Hills. Yes. That was, what, eight years now? We've been out here for six, six years. So about six years ago. Yeah, you were there like eight years ago, I think. [01:22] And I just remember you having the hyperbolic. Hyperbaric chamber? Yeah, the hyperbaric chamber. Are you still doing that? Was that what it was, or was it the sensory deprivation tank? [01:35] Oh, the one where you float. Yeah, because we had that at the studio. We didn't have a hyperbaric at the studio. Okay, so I do have a hyperbaric.

[01:43] You have that now here? Yeah, not here. I have it at my house. Yeah. I just was always impressed at... [01:49] just your consciousness on things that are unique, right? And as time goes on sometimes, [01:57] as we evolve, whether we evolve in physically, mentally, spiritually, or economically, sometimes we leave certain things behind. [02:04] I wonder if Joe... [02:08] keep moving his chi in the same direction. So that's my question to you. Well, sometimes it gets caught up in momentum and you got to step back and just realign yourself. That's definitely a factor. Like sometimes I'm too busy and I get too caught up in momentum of things and you kind of like lose, like, why am I doing this? Like, what is the, what's the process? Like, what is the reason for doing all this? But vacation always fixes that. Like you take a few days off, you go, [02:38] Oh, God. Now enjoy it. [02:42] I feel the same. To be honest, I've been running around for like, I don't know, for like eight days straight. And I like to kind of make sure I exercise, do my Tai Chi or something or stretch my body. [02:53] uh... [02:54] But... [02:55] I was telling my wife last night like, "Yo, I haven't worked out since we've been moving." But I've been drinking every night. So today this morning, before I came here, I got up a little bit earlier and I went and stretched and got all that out. And that's what made this question come to my head. It was like, I wonder as we grow and we become more and more involved and we get in whatever it is in life that's given us, how we get in these blessings, but how far do we get?

[03:25] away from the blessings that kind of made us solid. You know what I mean? Yeah. I try not to get as far. I try to stay as close as possible to like centering my body. Like, [03:36] If I don't work out, like just a couple days in a row, I start feeling weird. Just two days. Right. Two days, I just start feeling like – Yeah, crack, crack, crack, crack. Antsy. I feel antsy. I feel irritated. I don't think I'm thinking clear. I don't feel relaxed. I think I'm the same. Maybe for me, it's three and a half days. Well, what drives me nuts is like how many people out there, that's their whole life. There's no exercise in their life. Like, my God, you're doing yourself such a disservice. Yeah. [04:06] Your mind, not just your body, but your mind needs that. You need to blow out some steam and run the machine and stretch it out and relax it afterwards and recenter yourself. And if you don't do that, you're going to be anxious. There's so many people are dealing with like constant crippling anxiety all the time. And how many of those people don't exercise? Right. I think that in Shaolin philosophy, we... [04:33] You know, there's Qi Gong, right? And there's the the Qi travels through your blood. So you got to always continue to have the blood moving because the blood [04:43] is the supply you have, but the oxygen, you know, gets in and oxidates it and just keeps it flowing. And when you do stretching or you do exercises or you build up your respiration, it actually energizes the blood.

[04:57] which energizes every part of your body. That chi travels through every vessel and, uh, [05:03] every meridian of your body and it actually does [05:07] enhance you and and and re-vigorate you 100% yeah fires up your endorphins fires up your endocrine system everything just feels better and it calms you down I feel like human beings are almost like batteries like you're storing energy all the time but if you if you've got too much energy it's leaking out of the battery and you you're not you're not you're not [05:29] purging some of it you gotta you gotta your body has like human requirements for movement and if you don't if you don't use those requirements if you don't meet those requirements you're just gonna feel like shit and i think that's a big part of what's wrong with society today there's just way too many people that aren't doing that and they're just tense and they're they're tense anxious feeling that and the mental health problems that come with that it just spills over into [05:59] and um [06:00] I know that people that like Masifu Xi Yanming who he probably works out like six times a day because he has to train, he has individual clients. Right, right, right. [06:10] I think Sifu was maybe... [06:13] 10 years, 10 years old, 10 years older than me. [06:15] Look 10 years younger than me. Right. Of course. You know what I mean? Because he's just constantly... [06:20] moving that chi and exercising. He still could kiss his toes. [06:26] I in his 60s. Wow. Babies could do that. Right. Right. He still could kiss his toes like a baby. But he said something to me that I that I that I took just he to for myself. I said, see, for why do you like why do you work out so much? Right.

[06:44] He gave me two answers. He says, one, it feels good. [06:47] it makes me feel so good. But then the other answer he gave me was that because in Shaolin, [06:54] When you get up in the morning, you have to exercise, run up a mountain, [06:59] Run back down the mountain, do chores and all that before you eat. [07:04] And it's that if you don't do that, you don't eat. [07:07] and so i was like well that sounds like something from the bible where it says that uh [07:11] Nash awoke to the sweat of his brow. [07:14] You know what I mean? And I took that philosophy. So I know I don't normally. [07:17] eat in the morning. I would normally... [07:20] get up, I mean, I drink coffee now, so I've been drinking coffee about 10 years, I think. But I will have some coffee. [07:28] Some water. [07:29] And bam-a-lam-a. I get into my exercise routine when I'm home. I think that's the best way to start the day. [07:35] Yeah, I do the same. I don't work out. I don't eat, rather, before I work out. Right. I always work out first. Right. Right. Because then the water is fresher. The food tastes better. Yeah. You earned it, too. Exactly. You earned it. It's just a good way to start the day, too. You already did the hard part. The most difficult part of your day is done. Right. And then everything else. And also, that difficult thing makes the mental difficulty of the rest of the day work smoother. Yeah. Remember that old commercial? Yeah. [08:03] The Army commercial. Which one? It was like... [08:06] We do. [08:08] Oh, yeah. Yeah. So she like we do. Yeah. Well, six a.m. what most people do all day. Yeah. It's like back when you first, you know, when I saw I was young, I was like, I don't know what the fuck they talking about. But as a man, I'm like, you know, it's this that's wisdom. Get up in the morning, get your chi going and have a beautiful day.

[08:38] today i've got a victory i've got a victory over my inner bitch you know i got out there i did something and then i'm laughing how could you say you told the bed fuck you yeah that's what you have to say yeah you have to get up almost angry fuck you no you're not gonna call me in there with your octopus tentacles and suck me into your depths [08:57] This episode of the Joe Rogan Experience is brought to you by Paramount+. UFC history is going down at the White House. It's the world's greatest fights on America's biggest stage. Watch UFC Freedom 250 at the White House live today only on Paramount+. [09:17] This episode is brought to you by the Farmer's Dog. Here's a fun fact. Research shows that dogs who maintain a healthy weight can live up to two and a half years longer on average than dogs who are overweight. [09:28] Isn't that wild and also kind of obvious at the same time? So why is feeding vague scoops of ultra-processed kibble still the status quo for most dog owners? Healthy alternatives exist, and trust me, I know. I buy one, the Farmer's Dog. I use it for both my dogs. They love it. They eat it up quick. It smells good to them. It smells good to me. It's human-grade food. The Farmer's Dog makes fresh food for dogs, and my dogs love it. [09:58] meat and fresh vegetables that are gently cooked to retain vital nutrients. They also portion out the meals to your dog's nutritional needs, which helps avoid overfeeding and makes weight management easier. And isn't getting more time with our four-legged best friends something every dog owner wants? The answer to that is...

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[12:13] I take my phone and I got a little kickstand on the back of my phone, you know. So I put the timer on there and I look at it and it's at a minute. So I'm like, all right, we're good. We're past the minute. Once you get past the minute. The minute mark is the tough part. Once you pass the minute, it's pretty easy to get to three minutes. You just relax. I only did one ice bath. [12:32] uh... [12:33] And it was, they had bought this Tibetan llama. [12:38] to New York. It was me. I forgot the brother name. We was doing this TV show thing, and they were trying to find out [12:45] They were scanning our brains and see what would happen. [12:49] if we got in the cold bath before meditating, [12:53] then meditate it and then get back in. So whatever. Some science. I said, "Yeah, I'll do it." I don't know why I agreed to it, but I did it. [13:01] uh, [13:03] I got in that motherfucker, bro. [13:05] And when I got in there, I was like, this is not the shit. I'm like this. And the host... [13:12] He got in too. [13:14] Now, I don't know if that was his first time or not. [13:16] but he was younger than me, skinnier than me. [13:19] You know what I mean? [13:22] when I couldn't take it no more, [13:26] around one minute and whatever. It was past the minute mark. I got the fuck out, but he was still in there. [13:32] And I was like, I can't have this motherfucker beat me.

[13:37] And, yo, I got back in. Nice. You know what I mean? And they got some footage of that. I think I stayed in... [13:44] I don't think it was three minutes, but I think I... [13:46] really impressed myself because I'm super [13:50] Anti- [13:51] cold. You know what I mean? I run hot [13:54] I stay hot. I'm the hot part of getting – when my wife is cold, she just put her hand on me and I'm the heater. So cold is like something that – Yeah, I don't like it. Right. I don't enjoy it. But there's a little mind game that goes on. And the mind game is almost immediately you're like, oh, fuck this. Let's get out of here. Let's get out of here. You got to ignore that and just concentrate on breathing. So what I do is I breathe to a count of ten. [14:24] One, two, [14:27] Two. [14:30] Three. [14:34] and i just concentrate on the numbers and then by the time i get to 10 it's basically like a minute and i'm relaxed and then i just settle in there it's just you concentrate on breathing and don't think about that part of you that wants to get out right so maybe i think i'm gonna try a cold shower it's really good cold shower in new york is great if you uh like in the winter because that's real cold right that's real cold like that's like i used to take cold showers and [15:04] our Taekwondo school, he would take cold showers after training and I was like, "That guy is a fucking animal." And I tried it a couple of times, but I was a bitch. I did it like 15 seconds and I jumped out. But he would just stay there and lay in the cold, freezing cold winter, cold water and just wash himself. And I was like, "This guy's an animal, man." I think my brother, I haven't seen Kung Lee in years. Kung Lee the fighter? Yeah. Yeah. I remember we was, cause we did a movie years ago in China.

[15:33] But he was the cold plunger of the crew. Oh, yeah. He's ahead of the curve on all that shit. Yeah. Yeah. [15:40] It's just the mental thing is really where it benefits you. And not just while you're in it, like doing it because you don't want to do it. But when you get out, you feel so good. Your brain just is flooded with all these endorphins. You feel so good. And it lasts for hours and hours. [15:56] I'm going to revisit that. I think there's numbers on the dopamine increase, but I forget what they are off the top of my head. But there's a giant increase in dopamine that lasts like two to three hours after you're getting out of the cold plunge. Wow. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. I know you're a longtime martial arts student, and I think anybody that does martial arts for a long time realizes that it is as much for your mind as it is for anything else. Yes. [16:26] not just a workout it's a workout but it's also like there's something about going through the motions of of martial arts and training in martial arts it's so it's it requires so much concentration and it requires so much of your focus that the rest of the world just kind of fades away and and the impact of it is relaxed right because of that it's mental physical and spiritual yeah it's emotional yeah um [16:54] It's will. You know, there's a there's an esoteric thing. Um, [16:59] you know seven planes of energies or five stages of consciousness. I don't know if you ever came across these type of terms but

[17:05] but yeah, but... [17:07] Sometimes we get stuck on a [17:10] on just the three dimensions, you know what I mean? Just three planes, you know, and, and you don't get to the emotional, you don't get to the will part of it. You don't get to the realization, the control, right? If you could get to realization, right? [17:25] then you can control [17:27] what's going on because you realize what it is. It's almost like you can now have the foresight of what it is. Um, and then if you could get to that type of, uh, plane of energy, uh, [17:38] then the possibilities become infinite. [17:40] because you realize that [17:43] that you, I guess, you know, they say we all have a free will. [17:46] Right. But then you realize that the will can be controlled. [17:51] You also realize that with a strong will, you can control others as well. Yeah. Because some people... [17:57] Or walking around with weak whales. That's how you start a cult. [18:01] oh by by having the strongest will you come here [18:08] Yeah, hold on. You made me... I have a... [18:11] I do have a film and shit, right? Called One Spoon of Chocolate. I watched half of it. I had a problem. There was a problem with the early screener. I was mirroring it on my television, and it kept breaking up. [18:26] It kept fucking up where like the sound would cut in and cut out. And I did it a couple of times. And then the screener ran out because I guess you only watched it a few times. So then I had to contact your people. And then they gave me another one. But then they gave me one on Vimeo. And I watched that in the gym today. So I watched the first half of the movie. And I'm going to watch the second half. Take your time. Take your time. It's a crazy one. It's a fun watch. It's a lot of fun.

[18:50] Ways, but you did it with Tarantino. Yes. Yes. Yes. I mean, and it seems like yeah, it's got a kind of flavor to it But I was I was I brought it up this to say that there's a there's a Character who actually takes ice plunges, right? Yes. Um, and go the bad guy. Yeah, the villain. Yeah, so you're talking about coats and things in a way I [19:10] there's a scene where we introduce him, you could tell that everybody else there [19:17] are bending to his will, right? He shows them how to do this and you do this and you do that. And then there's the fucking, I guess the weak will guy and he's like, and that's why Jimmy's the fucking king, man. [19:37] So, Will... [19:39] Can control, you know what I mean? Yeah. But if you realize yourself and have that self-realization, self-actualization, you gain control over yourself, you know what I mean, and control your planes of energy. So we're talking about martial arts. And martial arts help you achieve that goal. [19:56] Yeah, my instructor used to say that martial arts are a vehicle for developing your human potential. [20:02] Mm. [20:02] I like that. It's so difficult that [20:05] in learning how to get... I don't like the term mastery because I don't think you ever really master martial arts. But in learning... [20:13] martial arts, the difficulty that's involved in that, it expands your potential in everything that you do. [20:19] I agree. And for me, I actually, you know, I always tell people on a physical level, I don't know if I'm good or not, to be honest. You know what I mean? I took up some hunger and Shaolin, of course. Uh...

[20:33] A little bit of Wing Chun here and there. But I don't claim to be like a martial art fighter. But I will claim to be a martial artist because of the mind. Because... [20:43] the way i think because the way it allowed me to think you know it's like it's like i have probably 20 books on tai chi [20:51] And I will. [20:52] And so I understand it. [20:55] the application of it. Like there's a meditation called the eight pieces of brocade. You ever come across that one? No. So, [21:02] uh it's what's the word brocade yeah brocade meaning blockage oh okay so it's eight ways to unblock yourself [21:10] like to unblock your chi. One of the first ones, of course, you sit in Lotus, and you just take your thumbs, and you bang on the back of your... [21:18] basically your medulla abglata, [21:20] I'll give you a few minutes, because I touched this real quick, if you don't mind. Back of your head? Yeah, right here. [21:24] Okay. You see how loud that is? Yeah. Right. So you cover, so you cover your ears and you bang on those drums first thing in the morning. Oh, and it exactly. And it opens up some of your chakras. [21:36] Mmm. [21:37] So – [21:39] That feels weird. [21:40] laughs [21:43] Because it's loud. It's as loud as it could be, right? Yeah. But point being made by studying all these different books is like the physical part, of course, is exciting. But to me, the mental part is even became more exciting. The more that I can apply. Therefore, I can apply it to my music. I can apply it to business. I can apply it to how to be a better father and all those things versus.

[22:08] me just punching and trying to break a brick. You know what I mean? Right, right, right. Yeah. There's, I mean, that's Tai Chi, right? It's all mental. The Tai Chi is a martial arts sort of, I mean, I guess like you would learn how to move your body better. That could kind of help you applied in a self-defense situation, but it's much more of a mental martial art. And I used to, when I lived in San Francisco, I used to watch people in the park. These old Chinese people would go out there and practice. [22:33] practice tai chi i was like what are they doing i was a kid i was you know i was eight i was dumb but i was like what is the purpose of doing this all day right like and then once you do it a few times you're like oh this is not easy to do right and then in doing that it cleans your mind of everything else that's going on because all you're concentrating on is these movements these very difficult they're not stupid like they've been doing this for thousands of years for a reason because it helps them what a crazy thing about tai chi [23:03] give you a little... [23:05] information about it that you may or may not know, but the idea with Tai Chi is that if you master it or you have that control over it, you should be able to [23:15] move a thousand pounds with just four ounces of energy. [23:18] So the idea of them pushing constantly means that something that ever came to them, [23:24] They push that aside without even thinking about it, right? [23:28] just four ounces of energy can divert it's almost like tripping a giant [23:33] I think it's great. [23:34] On paper. [23:37] An actual giant. I don't care how much Tai Chi you know. A dude is like a 300-pound All-American wrestler. He comes charging out. You ain't going to use four ounces of energy and divert him. Well, I'm going to argue that, right? Okay. The four ounces you use is just...

[23:50] Step to the side. Yeah, everybody says that step. It ain't easy. It doesn't work. Right. It doesn't work. They grab you. Right. You're not getting up. Then another. Well, I mean, a fight is a fight. Yeah, that's a that's a difference between a martial art and a fight. Right. Well, it's also just the reality of physics. [24:09] I mean, it's one thing if you're doing that to an unskilled person, but to a skilled person, really you need to know the skill that they're applying. Of course. You know what I mean? [24:21] that's the difference between like someone who's practicing something that is great in theory, but I mean, it's not, it's not just, [24:30] in theory, like physically and mentally, it's great for you, but it's just, it's not the right application in terms of actual hand-to-hand combat. Yeah. I mean, a fight is a fight. I don't care. Um... [24:42] I mean, in my opinion, a fight is a fight. I don't care which – I don't care – [24:47] Thank you. [24:48] you know, if you'd a [24:50] Best boxer in the world. [24:52] that knock motherfuckers out like like like one of our greatest fighters mike tyson who it wasn't just that he was a fighter [24:59] He was a fighter. [25:01] Of course, he had a skill set and he was well-trained, but in the peak of his career, [25:09] Fights. [25:11] I don't care how much somebody else trained. [25:13] When he got in the ring to fight, they weren't better fighters. They could have been better boxers, better athletes, better whatever. So I think a fight, and this is my opinion, it's an instinct.

[25:24] it's a, [25:25] you know, like what you, you know, like when Mike bit his ear, right? Right. That's a fight. That's, that's, that's nothing to do with, with boxing. And, [25:36] I think that was frustration, you know, unfortunately. You know, that was a Vander was beating him up. [25:43] I don't think he liked it. Vanna was beating him up. [25:46] Professionally. [25:48] skillfully in boxing. [25:50] But then Mike went to fighting. Yeah and fighting like in like an MMA you can't bite in MMA. You can't bite in no sport, right? Yeah, you ain't supposed to hit the nuts. I [26:00] right you need to post to i know which is crazy because in a fight the nuts are one of the best spots to hit exactly in the eyes you need to post to poke the eyes my friend eddie had an idea for a comedy sketch called ultimate sack fighting where it's just dudes are just just the nuts are the only target it's amazing how vulnerable we really are our balls just sitting on the outside [26:30] The referee stops the time and you get a point deducted, but it's a very good technique in an actual fight. Yes well, that's so blessed I meant by saying like I [26:38] So you could train and train and train. [26:41] But when you are when it's life against life or life or death, it's a whole nother chamber of. [26:48] fighting for survival you know there's some horrible videos of no rules fights or they have these no rules fights in russia and a bunch of other places but they do them outside in a field and these guys fight and this wrestler gets this guy down and he just shoves his thumbs in his eyeballs and he gets on top of him and he just grabs his face and shoves and the guy's just screaming he's trying to move his head away and he taps his blood all over his eyeballs party over

[27:18] And you know what's so crazy? The person who did it, [27:21] like maybe the guy who got the chance to do it. [27:25] It's not easy to [27:27] Tell me if you agree with this. You could disagree, but [27:30] It's not easy to do that either. No. I don't mean not easy that you can't do it. [27:34] it's not easy for your spirit to do it right [27:37] You see what I mean? Yeah, so so that's that's a whole nother chamber. It's like yo, I [27:42] will you... [27:44] Do it. Will you blind a man? Yeah. Will you do it? Right. And it's like, maybe you won't. But if he will and you won't. Right. Right. [27:52] Yeah, yeah, that's it. That's what I, that's when my seafood says that about, because he doesn't train nobody how to fight. He said, I can't teach nobody how to fight. [28:02] You know, I could teach you how to build your body, how to build your chi, how to build some strength. But a fight, bro, is different. There's no rules. It's life and death. And your will, going back to the will we talked about, your willpower has better be strong to survive. I love what Bruce Lee said. He practiced the art of not fighting. [28:27] I told that to my son. I was like, yo, bro, listen. If you can run, bro, run. [28:33] I mean, be up out of there. And motherfucker chase you. [28:36] You know, you got to go to, you got to think on something. But if you could just, yo, yo, you want to fight? [28:43] Oh, yo, you know what, Joe? I'll see you later, bro. You know what I mean? I know there's too many people that get into fights for no reason, and you wind up changing the rest of your life. You got a scar that's going to be with you forever, or you accidentally kill somebody. Yeah.

[28:57] It's stupid. It's a stupid thing to do. And there's so many men that feel like they just have to prove themselves, which is what a gym is for. Go to the gym. Go to the gym. Work out with other fighters. Train. Get beat up. Realize where you're at. Get a realistic sense of your actual ability and then improve upon them. But don't go getting in street fights, please, God. Don't do it. Don't do it. [29:19] And for me, I put all my aggression and all my energy into my art. You think about some of my early songs. [29:29] you know, when the motherfucking Rockers ball, that was like... [29:33] I used to have a problem. I don't know if it was anger management, maybe. [29:41] But I would just like, I don't know, like I needed to hear the sound of breaking glass. I used to scream. Like Jizzo was like, yo, this is a dude. And I realized that I had so much anger in me. [29:56] that [29:57] you know, I couldn't really get it out. I was kind of hulkish in a way, like Bruce Banner or some shit, right? But then through music... [30:05] it started to come out and it started to come out. And by the time I got to, um, [30:10] um, Wu-Tang Forever, a lot of my anger, [30:15] was [30:16] in the song. [30:17] "If you want beef, then bring the rockers." And like all that stage and all that energy. So it really helped me. And then I realized, [30:25] going to bring it up today to my new film, I'm watching it and I'm just like, okay, I'm

[30:31] Once again, I took... [30:33] all the anger [30:34] and I put it into the art. [30:37] You know what I mean? There's actually a character in the film... [30:42] His name is Unique. Did you catch that when you saw the piece? Unique is the name of Oh Dirty Bastard. His original name was A-Sawn Unique. And so that was my way of... [30:56] of giving homage to him by naming the lead character of my new film unique. And, and, and he's, and it says in the film, he says, uh, [31:06] you got a problem with anger, anger management. Right. He says, yeah, I'm working on that. And [31:12] And what I love about the art of it is that [31:17] The problem that he had with anger management was his reaction. Like a lot of us, we just react too much. We react before we think. Right. Because they say a man could think seven times before he reacts. That's how fast your mind can move. But we go on that first impulse. But this character, he keeps he holds the anger until one morning he's a. [31:41] He's at a veteran home, right? And he's sitting there and he's having breakfast and he has this can, right? You see this thing, right? And he's like, he digs the spoon in there and it's like fucking there's nothing in it. Like it's not even it's like one spoon of chocolate in it. And he gets what angry and he bangs it. Boom! Who the fuck left one spoon of chocolate in the can? But then it took an old man that was settled and

[32:04] to tell him [32:05] one spoon of chocolate change a whole glass of milk it changed the whole glass of milk and then you notice that character from that then he calmed down he started reading to the kids yeah so [32:17] And that was kind of me taking some of my personality, some of you, some of old Dirty's personality, some of the personalities that I see in my community and putting into this character, this, this say like, yo, sometime, yo. [32:28] Calm down. Listen to the wisdom of your elders. [32:31] Right? Have you ever... have you ever... [32:34] in your life, I'm going to ask you, have you ever, like... [32:37] come across some old person, whether it's a homeless guy, a devoted guy, your uncle, somebody, that you kind of didn't [32:45] look up to in no way just kind of neighbors but then they say something to you that's profound and change your life. [32:52] Oh, man. I'm trying to find an example. [32:56] I mean, I've definitely gotten a lot of advice from old-timers. [33:00] Definitely people, especially people that have done a lot of things. People that have accomplished things and made mistakes and [33:07] recovered from their mistakes. [33:09] Yeah. [33:11] I mean, actually, because I was maybe 11. [33:15] And there was a [33:18] like a dope fiend, [33:20] that was dating my aunt [33:21] Thank you. [33:22] He was at the table and shit and he was like nodding but he was just he was kind of in the chamber, bro You know, you know kids looking. Yeah, I'm looking at this guy shit and he says says something about like I

[33:35] you know i don't care you gotta get knowledge man you gotta get knowledge man the gods is right man you gotta get knowledge [33:45] I started reading since that day, bro. Really? Seriously. [33:49] The Dope Fiend. Yeah. Yeah. [33:51] Inspired you to read. Yeah, he said because he said you got to get what happened was he had knowledge of self I guess back before the drugs hit him [33:58] and now he's like dead and he was like he was like you gotta get knowledge the guards are right the guards are right and so what was he on? what was the drug of choice? he was on fucking he shot that shit up heroin? yeah he was on heroin that's the old days back when they shoot it now everybody's on pills [34:16] Right. Yeah. I never, I never, I don't know about that. I don't know about it either, but I mean, I don't know about it personally, but that's [34:22] It's essentially what oxycodone is. All those pain pills that you see, all these people dying of. Right, opioids. Yeah, opioids, yeah. [34:30] The number one problem, I mean, I think the deaths in America, it's upwards of 70,000 a year. [34:37] I know it's crazy. That's crazy. Yeah. [34:40] Just from overdosing on pills. Yeah, and most of it happened because of the Sackler family. [34:46] The what? The Sackler family, this one family that convinced people that... [34:51] taking these [34:53] incredibly potent opioids. Did you ever see that Netflix docuseries Painkiller? [34:59] I didn't see that one. It's really good. It's all about the Sackler family. Peter Berg made it. Same guy. You know Peter? I know Peter, yeah. He's great. He's great, yeah. Lone Survivor made a bunch of excellent movies. He's great. He made this documentary on documenting how – well, it's not a documentary, a docudrama series or recreation showing how this one family –

[35:22] Um, [35:23] They wanted to figure out a way where they could sell opioids to everyone. And the way they did it was like giving people pain management tools, giving people medication that you could be on forever. And they made it. [35:37] and they pushed it through these different doctors and they had all these hot ladies who were representatives of the pharmaceutical drug companies that come to the doctor and they were the reps that would come and sell the things. Yeah, I mean really. And they were all financially incentivized to sell it and they tried to pretend that it wasn't addictive and they lied about that and they got who knows how many thousands and thousands and thousands of people ruined their lives because of it. [36:05] Like I said, 70,000 die every year just in America, just from opioids. That's crazy, bro. From overdoses. I mean, and how many more would there be of that if it wasn't for Narcan? That's the counter, right? Yeah, that's the stuff that the EMTs give you. If they find you overdosing, they give you Narcan, and it kills it and brings you back to life. [36:26] That one family, no one's gone to jail. No one's gone to jail. I mean I don't even know how much they've been fined. But if it wasn't for what they did and, again, well-documented in that Netflix series, it's horrific, man. It's really terrifying because it's not just the people that died and the people that are addicted. It's all the family members that were affected by them, all the children of those people and what happened with their lives, all the spouses and the brothers and sisters of those people and what happened with their lives.

[36:56] That's crazy. When you were saying that, my my my imagery in my head was that scene in American Gangsta when it was like Thanksgiving and and they showed Frank Lucas at the table. [37:10] with his whole family that had a nice spread of food. And then they [37:14] the camera went and showed all the families that was hooked on the blue magic drug. Yeah. They had like the lady dying over here, the kid, the kid looking at her mother dead or [37:25] So... [37:26] The difference, I guess. [37:28] That's the image that came to my head when you said that, but I guess the difference is in that particular case, somebody goes to jail and pays the price for the crime. But in this particular case, you're saying that nobody went to jail. This episode is brought to you by Blinds.com. Texas summers don't mess around with patio surfaces easily reaching 150 degrees, hot enough to make your backyard feel like a punishment. And if your windows are bare, indoor temperatures can go up 20 degrees. [37:58] with custom solar shades for your den and your patio from Blinds.com. Whether you want to do it yourself or have a pro handle everything, they've got you covered. It's all online so you can shop whenever you want but still have access to real design professionals. They'll even send free samples. Blinds.com has been doing this for 30 years, and they back everything with a 100% satisfaction guarantee so you can order with confidence.

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[40:00] Killed 70,000 people a year for who knows how many years. And it was probably more than that before they figured out Narcan. And part of it is also because people get addicted to it. And then they get stuff from the cartel that has fentanyl in it. And that's why they're dying. But there's a bunch of people that just died from straight up overdose of opioids, too. It's terrifying. And it's over the counter. Yeah. And yeah, no, it's not over the counter. You have to get prescribed. But doctors are happy to prescribe it for you. I got my nose fixed. I had a deviated septum. [40:30] And they cleaned it out. And I was leaving the doctor's office and he gave me two prescriptions for opioids. And I said – [40:38] But I don't I'm not in pain. He goes, but you probably will be. And I go, but is it going to be worse than this right now? Like we're just out of the operation. My nose was like this, these things stuffed up your nose to keep your nostrils open. And I was like, are you sure it's going to be worse than this? And he gave me two prescriptions. [40:57] And I went home and I was like – [40:59] I don't need these. Like, I didn't film, but I'm like, this is not. [41:03] But this guy was giving me two different opioids to take. [41:08] You would have been, he would have had, you would have went back. I probably would have been hooked. Yeah, you would have went back. I mean, I know a lot of people that got hooked, man. I'm not, I'm under no illusion that I'm stronger than those people that I would have figured out a way to not get hooked. Right. So many people that I know got hooked. [41:23] So you're saying like, let me just go back on this because – [41:26] I actually don't take... [41:27] nothing bro like yeah i drink tea or you know i'm very um i mean i do pump an asthma inhaler yeah yeah when i get when i get it because i had asthma system you had asthma my whole life

[41:39] Other than that, I don't really take no... [41:42] Tain of no nothing, bro. Fuck all that stuff. But you're saying, though... [41:47] at the end of the day, just taking, doing this back at you, [41:51] The doctor basically... [41:53] sling gave you some free shit. Yeah. [41:56] to kind of have you as a customer. 'Cause when crack came out, I remember this. - I think he's financially incentivized. - That's what I mean. - I think they're financially incentivized to prescribe you this medic. 'Cause he didn't say, if you're in pain, contact me and I'll fill you a prescription. 'Cause it's just my nose, man. It's just the nose. It's not that big a deal. Like I slept fine. It was nothing. [42:16] That's crazy. And I try to tell him, I'm like, I don't understand why you're giving me. We had a conversation. I go, [42:21] Is it going to be worse than it is right now? Like right now, I'm not in any pain. He goes, it could probably get worse. I'm like, how much worse? Because right now I don't feel anything. It's like nothing. It's like mildly uncomfortable because I have these tubes stuffed up my nose. Right. But this is not, this doesn't require heroin. This is crazy. I'm not laughing at you. I'm not laughing. But it is kind of not financially incentivized. Let me go back to the film. [42:51] film, there's a [42:53] There's a... [42:55] article [42:56] that I hear opens up in the paper. It's not the same subject, but it's a medical thing. And it's just like this, this particular county is leading, is leading in this particular process because there's money in it. If it's money,

[43:13] Sadly. [43:14] Yeah. You know, I mean, and that's a movie. But sadly, if there's money involved, [43:21] people can become insidious, right? Yeah. People can become like... [43:26] Yeah, you could get slung out, you could get slung out, sold. [43:31] You know, I vote 20 prescriptions this week. [43:33] And they're not cheap, right? [43:36] How much is the prescription when you fill it? Is that like $40, $100? I don't know. It's not cheap. But more importantly, the doctor gets incentivized. That's what I mean. When you hear some dark shit, I was reading about this doctor that was an oncologist. So he's dealing with cancer patients. And he was giving chemotherapy to people that didn't have cancer because it would get him more money. You kind of fucked me up with that. [43:59] Yeah, then you gotta hit my emotion, because I just lost my brother to cancer, my brother power. [44:06] Yeah. I'm sorry to hear that. Let's take a moment. [44:08] I'm sorry to hear that. [44:11] Yeah, it's one of the most profitable medications, unfortunately, for physicians. Well, not unfortunately. [44:18] If it saves your life, that's wonderful. But the reality is this one doctor that I'm discussing, this one doctor decided that he was going to get paid more by just giving chemotherapy to people that didn't have cancer. So he diagnosed a bunch of people. [44:32] With cancer, they didn't have it. He said, oh, unfortunately you have cancer. The good news is we get you on chemotherapy right away. We think we can kick it. And they were regular people with nothing wrong with them. And this fucking guy gave them poison. You know how much the chemo costs? It's very expensive.

[44:47] It's about 30 to 60 grand a hit. [44:51] Yeah, I'm not surprised. And the doctors profit off of that. It's one of the most profitable medications that doctors prescribe, unfortunately. And look, most doctors would never fucking imagine doing that in a million years. But this one doctor, like his... [45:06] His thought process was, hey, this is how I get paid. I'm dealing with all this overhead. I'm dealing with all this liability insurance. I'm dealing with medical school bills. I'm dealing with all this. Fuck this. I'm just going to start prescribing a little bit of chemotherapy here and there to people that don't actually have cancer. [45:24] And I don't know how he got caught. I don't know what happened, but I think it was just – They got him though. There was some red flag. Yeah, they got him. He's in jail. There was some red flag where they noticed, like, why are so many people getting cancer? [45:37] with this one doctor like why is his number so high it doesn't it's not representative of the new one is that yeah that's crazy but that's what that's what's hard to imagine is that money would incentivize someone to [45:52] Tell a person like how many people just commit suicide because they think they're dying of cancer and they go fuck I'm known on I don't want to do this. I don't want to suffer. I'm just gonna fucking go out on my own terms. You know, yeah, well, how many people how many people's lives did that ruin? [46:07] I don't, well, first of all, that was terrible. I had to kind of emotionally rebound from that because it's just... [46:14] You kind of made me think like, y'all don't know, like, you know,

[46:18] we don't have the answer to shit, you know what I mean? And things happen in life and sometimes you just like, [46:23] Yeah. [46:23] you know, [46:24] but I do have instinct and I always, you know, I just felt that something wasn't [46:29] I don't know. I won't even go there. But [46:32] You said that money, why would he do it for the money? It's like, yo, everything is for the money, bro. [46:39] Motherfuckers is doing... [46:41] you know, cash rules. [46:43] everything around me. Get the money. And people were stuck on that. The goal, hopefully, because we live in a capitalist society, but the goal should be [46:55] The cash doesn't rule you. Money shouldn't rule you. We need it. [46:59] You know what I mean? Food, clothing and shelter, you're going to need that. There ain't nothing given here. [47:05] But it doesn't surprise me. [47:08] You know that... [47:10] That's the motivation. [47:12] for insidious behavior. [47:16] I'm going to go back a little history here. [47:19] We're working on another project. [47:22] when we tap into, it's kind of fantasy. I'll just write off my imagination. But I had this family family. [47:32] their ancestors are from Congo. [47:37] And in the Congo, they trace their ancestry back to the Leopold days. And you think about the Leopold days and, [47:45] millions of Africans were mined.

[47:49] chopped off the arms and shit. [47:52] All because the gag was they wanted them to work and to get the rubber from the rubber tree. [47:59] So the rubber at one point became the main gold [48:03] of the world, right? And King Leopold went over to Congo, and you get Tarzan out of this shit, all right? That's the fictional story. But he goes over, and I think they said... [48:16] At minimum... [48:18] 2 million people. [48:20] but I think it's 5 million that. [48:23] were... [48:24] Just... [48:25] mined or killed [48:27] Just for the economic profit. [48:30] of what those rubber trees was offering to Western civilization. You know, that's happening right now with Cobalt. I had this guy, Siddharth Kara, on the podcast. He wrote a book. Jimmy, do you remember what the name of that book was? [48:45] his book on cobalt mining in the Congo. So cobalt is a critical mineral that's used in cell phone batteries. Yeah. [48:52] and many electronics. [48:54] That is cobalt red, the blood of the Congo powers in our lives. [48:58] It's a very disturbing conversation. And he snuck in cameras and got some footage of these people doing what – [49:08] You think that this stuff is mined in some sort of industrial process. Look at this. This is how these people are mining. And you've got women who have babies on their backs, and all this cobalt that they're knocking out of the ground is completely toxic. Some of them just have like a bandana over their mouth that they're using to protect themselves from it. But look how deep that is with human beings that are just pulling cobalt. They live on dirt floors.

[49:38] Poverty, unimaginable. They don't have clean water. They don't have good food. And they are pulling out a mineral that's essential to the most technologically sophisticated aspect of our society, which is our connectivity through the Internet, through cell phones. And this is at the – which is kind of crazy if you think of like – [49:57] The most technologically sophisticated aspect of our society, if you follow it all the way down to the very bottom of the food chain, you've got slave labor. [50:07] And that's a giant percentage of the cobalt that's in our cell phones and our electronics is coming out of this place. [50:16] I've never seen that before. A lot of them are run by China. Yeah, and it's very scary, man. I've never seen it, but I wrote a lyric. [50:25] That touches upon it. I never seen those images before. He's got video. See if you can find the video. The video's dark. I think my lyric said, uh, let's see if I can remember my lyric. It was a song I wrote called The Fate of the World is in Your Hand with me and DJ Scratch. And, uh, what I, I knew that, I knew that. [50:44] cobalt or I knew that they was getting the mineral [50:48] from congo um but i didn't know it like that it was something like you know as an artist you're fucking antenna right you get shit but i said something uh [50:58] I said, I'm trying to remember the lyric I said. It was like... [51:03] Um... [51:05] Hey, could you pull up the lyrics to Rizzo's song that's made in the world as well? How do you do this? Yeah, play that video real quick, but please, look at this.

[51:13] How crazy is this? By the way, all this... [51:17] seen almost biblical toil the prizes cobalt and here's the thing all this shit is super toxic so all these people are breathing in this insanely toxic dust and they're knocking it out of the ground with hammers and carrying it off in bags look at this shit yeah this is this is this looks biblical bro right and imagine how fucking heavy these bags are and they're doing this all day long look at these guys struggling to pick those bags up [51:43] And they're carrying this shit all day long. And they're just knocking it to the ground, trying to pull out this Cobalt. And the thing is, like... [51:49] This is what we need to power our phones, which is so crazy. If you think about all these people that are virtue signaling about how wonderful and ethical and moral they are, they're doing it on a phone that is literally powered by slave labor. [52:05] That's crazy. It's crazy. Yeah. And it's crazy that this is going on in 2026, and most people aren't even aware of it. Well, this is – well, you're back. [52:13] Like I just said, the project I'm working on now, we just talk about it. We're tracing it back to the rubber tree, but it's still going on. It's still going on. And that's just cobalt. There's other stuff that they're mining there too. It's very similar. There's other what they call conflict minerals. Pull up my lyric for The Fate of the World. [52:34] I just want to just point out what I said there, if you got that on Genius or something.

[52:42] here it is yeah it says uh [52:45] A thousand years of darkness, the world got struck with sorrow. How will be that name? We need a better tomorrow. [52:51] Go to the second verse. [52:54] uh, [52:57] Let me see. [52:59] Oh no, wrong song. That's what it was. I got too many songs. It's called [53:05] you forgot the name of your own song that's hilarious yeah you got too many songs what's the other one on that one uh [53:15] Um... [53:16] Go open that. No, not that one. Go to the other, what do you call it? The other, go to the album title. Yeah, hit the album Saturday afternoon. You're going to edit some of this, right? No. You're going to edit? Okay, well, y'all going to bear with us. [53:30] Saturday afternoon, Kung Fu Theater. No, no, no. Go to the... [53:34] Oh, it's called The Great Fisherman. Let me see the titles of the songs. [53:41] Fisherman. Fisherman. Fisherman. [53:43] Yeah, pull that one up. Put those lyrics up. So what is genius? Genius is it shows all the lyrics? Yeah. That's what it is? And then it actually has a song underneath it. Oh, that's cool. I didn't even know that existed. People can annotate and tell you what people meant by what they said. Oh, really? Yeah. On genius? Yeah. Oh, cool. Okay, right there. There you go. Look. The great fishermen, the fisher of men are trying to make a remedy for the elixir of sin, a premonition. We need divine intervention. The whole world is a stage, so it's time for intermission.

[54:13] Middle of the Congo jungle, there's a combo of concentrated elements that make the world's phones glow. Wow. But they got a small zone for their phones, though, because they don't even got reception out there. But we used to communicate just banging on the bongo. That's when the village was more motherly and more brotherly. But then the dust came through and killed them all for the rubber tree. King Leopold city was built from a sea of gold and the resurrected still trading on a silky road. [54:41] Yeah. [54:43] Those are some bars. Respect. But not doing that to show off or nothing. But it's real. Yeah. But you just gave me like the full. [54:52] You gave me the connotation and the annotation of the lyric. I didn't even see. I never seen that before. Oh, that's crazy. I just I just heard that they got to get it from there. And I knew the history of King Leopold, but I did not know that. [55:06] This is still. Still. This is crazy. Yeah, it's still going on. And it'll continue going on as long as no light is shown on it. And this is what Siddharth Carr was trying to do with his book and the tour that he was doing and doing podcasts and trying to let – I mean, he risked his life, man. I mean, they questioned him, and he got very lucky that he got out of there with that footage. Right. Because they want to make sure that nobody knows about this shit. They don't want any outrage. They want the mining to keep going as planned. [55:36] It's dark. It's dark, yeah. Because it's a multi, multi-billion dollar industry that's... [55:42] Powered by abject poverty. It might be trillion. Probably trillion. Yeah, because like you're just saying, if it's in all our phones, that means... Not just our phones, but I think it's in a lot of electronics. I think it might be...

[55:55] Is Cobalt in electric cars? [55:59] I think they're trying to make new formulations of batteries without cobalt. So there's a – Jamie, what is that? I know a lot of the Chinese cell phones are using a different battery technology. Instead of lithium ion, they have something else that's more dense. Well, that's what – yeah, cobalt's – [56:19] Critical component in lithium batteries, right? This is [56:23] That's crazy. Yeah, lithium-ion batteries. What is, like, Oppo, there's a bunch of these new Chinese companies that have cell phones that have... [56:33] much more battery, like instead of like a Samsung Galaxy S26 Ultra has a 5,000 milliamp [56:43] battery in it. I think these Oppo phones have 7,000 plus, but I think it's carbon silicon-based [56:52] Mm-hmm. [56:52] batteries, [56:53] I wonder if they have cobalt in them. [56:56] You know, as technology for batteries changes and advances, they need different kinds of components in them. But, I mean, then you've got to find out where are they getting that shit from? Is that another, like, conflict mineral that they have people digging out of the ground with sticks? Well, the other thing to think about, you know, just – let's say it is worth trillions of dollars. [57:19] Like, when do... [57:22] the people who... [57:24] You know, like if that's on my property, bro,

[57:26] You know what I'm saying? You come to my crib for it, I should get paid off of that. I should be… Well, you know how it works. China comes in. A lot of these are Chinese run. China comes in. They pay off the people that are in power in these areas. [57:43] And those people will get wealthy. And then all the people that are the workers, they all get wealthy. [57:48] like [57:49] Pennies. [57:51] As small a wage as you could possibly pay them to keep them alive. Right. Because people live on dirt floors. It's crazy. No food. It's horrible. It's really dark, man, because... [58:03] It's what powers electronics, which is nuts, because that's the most sophisticated aspect of our society in terms of technology. Well, the government of those places, and not to get here like I'm an artist and I'm a spiritual man. [58:17] But it... [58:18] They should be like, yo, hold on, bro. [58:20] Yeah. Like like in Alaska. Right. [58:23] There's a pipeline that goes through Alaska. You know about this pipeline, right? Sure. But the citizens of Alaska, they get a royalty for that. Yes. Yes. [58:31] Yeah. Like the like if I'm in Congo and I got this cobalt as well, children's and I got all these people. Give them give them more royalty. A hundred percent. If it was America, that would probably the only way to do it. But obviously you couldn't pay people the way you pay people in the Congo in America. Anyway, we have laws, but this is also why they want illegal immigration. That's part of the reason why they like illegal immigration is because you don't have paperwork. You don't have to pay people what they're supposed to get paid.

[59:01] Aerobeite batteries... [59:03] So it seems like one of the reasons for utilizing this new technology is because it's not using as much cobalt. [59:12] So advanced lithium-ion technology using silicon to replace traditional graphite anodes, offering roughly 20% to 40% higher energy density and faster charging, especially in smartphones. [59:24] It did because I had cobalt added onto it. [59:28] Yeah. [59:30] So it has cobalt in that as well? But less maybe? It enables more sustainable cobalt-reduced designs, so you have less cobalt. Less, right. And it's more energy density. [59:41] So these Chinese phones are – yeah, here it is, Honor Magic 5 Pro. A lot of these OnePlus 13, a lot of these Chinese-made Android phones are using – [59:54] much more advanced battery technology so they're trying to ease up on it a little bit basically i mean i don't know the heart the question is like well where are you getting everything else where's all the other shit that's in your phone and how are you mining that if you're hiding how you mine cobalt how are you mining all the other stuff because they're all conflict minerals and a lot of these minerals unfortunately are mined out of the third world they find them in these places where people are really poor and the people that live there they don't benefit from it their lives [1:00:24] worse because they get poisoned. Well, the thing that, but let me add some wisdom to that. The people got to realize that they are not poor.

[1:00:33] Right. [1:00:34] Because if that is valuable and you're standing on it, then you're standing on value. You know, and that's why they keep them poor, because they can't organize them. But think about the Holy Koran for a moment. Right. Let me go here for a little spiritual here. Right. [1:00:48] So in the Holy Quran, it mentions that, uh, [1:00:52] You know, if the Muslims were to do what they was going to do, that they would have many wells. [1:00:58] right because you know they live in the desert basically right and it says they're gonna have [1:01:03] abundant of wells. [1:01:06] It's not an abundant of water wells. [1:01:08] in the Middle East. [1:01:10] Right. And these are people that are living nomadic, economically, [1:01:16] not really... [1:01:18] at the level of the rest of the world. But it's a prophecy telling them that they're going to have wells. But what kind of wells they end up having? [1:01:25] oil, oil wells. Right. And so now all of a sudden they become the most [1:01:31] Riches. [1:01:33] small region in the world. So the promise is fulfilled, right? But the gag is that [1:01:39] the people gotta realize sometimes where you stand, where you stand. [1:01:44] on your land. [1:01:45] You know what I mean? The value of it [1:01:47] as the Bible would say, yo, [1:01:49] Thank you. [1:01:50] Work to the sweat of your brow to dig and plow and make your land valuable. But now if you... [1:01:57] So if I'm just saying that the people where they're going to get whatever they're going to get go [1:02:02] Okay, I don't care if you're going to get some berries in the Amazon if the berries is worth money than the dude who got all the berries got to realize that your bro Let's make a deal

[1:02:11] But it seemed like that ain't happening. No. No. [1:02:14] No, it's not happening. And the reason why it's not happening is because you have enormous corporations that come in from other countries. They get contracts and they pay off the people that are the leaders of these countries or the people that are the leaders of the military. And then those people keep these people oppressed. Right. And that's what – I mean it's the people that are running these countries that are making sure that these people don't get paid what they deserve so that they can keep them working there for slave wages. [1:02:44] They also keep the options as low as possible. These people don't have any options. If you're living in the Congo and you're near where these cobalt mines are, what are your other options? [1:02:54] Right. You know? I remember, I'm going to shout out Burnham Boy. [1:02:57] Burnham Boyd is a good dude. He had told me something [1:03:01] Give me some insight about... [1:03:04] I'm going to go ahead and get a [1:03:05] Nigeria and and and and like he was saying to me like how Wu-Tang when we was young You know, we had to sling street pharmaceuticals right but out there [1:03:16] oil is like a street pharmaceutical. Like, dudes was slinging petrol and slinging oil and shit. In Nigeria? Yeah. Wow. Like, that's crazy, right? It's crazy. But the gag I'm saying is that [1:03:30] still, you know, of course the government controls all that, but, but sometimes the people who got to just, uh, snap, you know, just, yo, I don't know, stand on your land, yo, and, and, and, and realize, you know,

[1:03:43] the value of where you stand. You know, every man, um, [1:03:47] has a value. Right? We all walk with a living value. Every life is precious. Every life that's born changes the world. Soon as somebody is born today, this ain't the same world it was yesterday. Right. Soon as somebody returns to the essence, this ain't the same world. So we got to kind of, but the people... [1:04:06] I'm going back to the people, not to the military or to the government. The people got to realize that, yo, hold on, bro. It's you. You're the value. [1:04:13] Because without them, [1:04:14] Right? Until they do get... [1:04:17] 10 million robots to do that shit, which I'm not opposed to that. Send 10 million robots to dig it up, bro. And still, though, if it's on my land, [1:04:28] Break me off. You know what I mean? But people got us knackered today. Well, these places are all guarded by the military. So it's all people with guns. You can't leave. You're doing their bidding. You'll get shot. They kill people. They bury you. No one notices. No one cares. The value of human life is extremely low. [1:04:47] Yeah, it's satanic. It's dark. Well, let's jump back on my film because in my film, the value of life exists. [1:04:55] Yeah, is once again, [1:04:58] We're talking about the world, but yet I got to relate it back because in our film, the value of life seems low as well. Yeah. Low for the person living. [1:05:10] more valuable for the person that kills them. Right. Yeah. Without giving too much of the film away, what happens in the film actually happens in real life. I mean, you say it's based on real life, but there's been real life cases where people, they've harvested people's organs for profit. And that's a thing. I mean, that's a big problem with people in China. You know, people go to China for...

[1:05:34] for organs. Like there's a tourism to get organs replaced. Like say if you need a new kidney or you need a new liver or whatever. We got it. Yeah, they have it. And what they'll do is they'll take their fucking prisoners and they oh look, AB blood type, perfect. Whack. [1:05:48] Then now you got some dudes heart business. Yeah, there's a crazy. There's another element that um, I [1:05:55] Um... [1:05:57] This is Reza right here. I'm live on Joe Rogan podcast. I got a new film coming out May 1st. It's called One Spoon of Chocolate. [1:06:05] uh... [1:06:06] Written and directed by the RZA, starring Shamik Moore, Paris Jackson, Blair Underwood, Rockman Dunbar, the name of a few. It's produced by Quentin Tarantino and my wife, Talani Diggs. Hey, baby. I did an official radio drop. That sounded like we were on the radio. Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, this is the RZA. Coming in at five after the hour. [1:06:30] I love how art can touch upon things even if it's – [1:06:36] unintentional, right? What I mean by unintentional is that, you know, as an artist, I just let the shit flow. Like, when you showed all that [1:06:45] Congo Cobalt. I never seen it. But yet it's in your lyrics. Yeah, but that's in my lyrics. And even you're telling me there's China stuff here. [1:06:54] I don't know about that. I do know some things that happened, but some articles, but I wasn't [1:07:00] I'm not... [1:07:02] in depth.

[1:07:06] I don't have in-depth knowledge of it. But I still have as an artist, Joe, is to... [1:07:12] actually to at least show the surface so that, you know, [1:07:16] I don't know how deep the pool is. [1:07:18] but I will show the surface through my art. I think in this film, which is a [1:07:24] It's an action film, though, right? So Joe only seen the first half of it, so he doesn't know about the revenge-o-matic ass-kicking. And I'm not going to spoil it for you either. I believe it. There's already plenty of ass-kicking already. Right, right. Exactly. Seen some. Okay. But it gets fucking... You're going to have a good time. I'm sure. You're going to have a good time. But... [1:07:44] Still, once again, the art of it. [1:07:46] Um... [1:07:48] It has a I'm realizing as I'm watching with different audiences like when I watched it in a [1:07:53] New York. [1:07:54] I had motherfuckers yelling at the screen, fuck that. [1:07:58] They was on some shit. When I watched it in LA, the audience was like... [1:08:04] It was like a sense of nervousness was in the room. When I watched in Chicago, it was standing ovation. [1:08:11] You know what I mean? I watched it in San Francisco and the Q&A was very intellectual. So I'm realizing that, OK, this is touching. And when I watched it, this other place, the girl with Dave, actually, I watched it with Dave Chappelle. He said that you got bars in this motherfucker. I said, what do you mean by bars?

[1:08:41] the church on a Sunday. [1:08:42] except for Jimmy and his gang of degenerates. They party all night Saturday and they sleep all day Sunday. She said, and I guess. [1:08:53] They're not afraid to go to hell. And then the hero says... [1:08:58] But where I come from, [1:09:00] They say heaven is what you make it. [1:09:03] And hell is what you got to go through to get it. [1:09:06] and she was like that sounds like Dave was like that's a fucking bar and yo hold on so last time I was here it was Donnell Rawlings was here right so check it out bro I was showing the film to Dave right [1:09:21] And we're going to do a Q&A. I went to Yellow Spring, Ohio. Was Donnell there? Bro. [1:09:27] He was there, yo. And then he got up and he asked a question. And he started, he interrupted. [1:09:36] He talked about the day we was here, and you inspired him to do a podcast. I remember you said, yo, start a podcast. Well, you might even help them. [1:09:44] Right. And then he said, uh, I said, yo, yeah, if you need something, hit me. So he hit me up. Say, yo, let me get a opening theme track. [1:09:52] And so I got like a bunch of beats that's on my little thumb drive. [1:09:57] I sent them like five of them. [1:09:58] and he chose one. - Yeah, he told me about this. - Yeah. So now he choose one, and that because of his theme. It was a nice fucking, but that same five tracks, [1:10:08] My manager is sending it to other people, too. So I did give it to Donnell. I gave it to him gratis.

[1:10:14] But he comes up in the middle of my Q&A with Dave about my film, and he starts talking about the beat, and he says, [1:10:21] Vizza is an Indian giver. [1:10:25] He said... [1:10:27] He said I was playing. He said I had it on my podcast for almost two years. And then one day it said flag, license, whatever they do and shit. When you can't use it, you're a motherfucker's shit. And I was like, oh, yeah, bro, yeah. The people from the Minions, they had got – [1:10:48] those five tracks as well and and and they chose it and they put it and they put it and [1:10:53] And they paid us a lot of money. Not going back to the money of it all. [1:10:59] So I told him, I said, that was another beat. He said, nah, son, that was the one. Oh, no. That was the one. I said, bro, they chose it. My manager made the deal. Oh, no. It's off the table now. Oh, no. So he had to change his opening? Yeah. So I owe him. Oh, no. I owe him, my God. That gives him more to complain about. Yeah. Oh, no. It's almost worth giving him the beat just so he doesn't have to complain. Yeah. [1:11:23] hook you up with something actually gonna cook you up something nice all right i can't wait for this phone call [1:11:28] son you know what he did to me son he took it back he said that shit in front of the audience i couldn't deny it and shit i was like yeah they they you know that's hilarious that's hilarious um but anyway um but they love the film too

[1:11:47] Like the audience and... I'm going to say that because I love when my peers react to something. Is this your first feature-length film? It's the fourth. Fourth. Yeah. I know you've done other stuff, but have you written and done other things like this? The way you're doing it this way? This is my second one writing. So I wrote my first film, Man with the Iron Fist. Right. Right? Which was the Quentin Tarantino percent as well. And then... [1:12:13] It was a kung fu movie. [1:12:16] So then I didn't want to get stuck with, [1:12:18] And like, oh, that's all he does. So my second film I didn't write was written by Nicole and she. [1:12:26] It was called Love Beats Rhymes. And that was like a movie about poetry and a female lead. And it was actually... [1:12:36] John David Washington. It was his first feature film as well. And then my third film was called Cutthroat City, which I didn't write. Just once again, I hired Gunn as a director. And in that film, I had Shamik Moore [1:12:50] as the lead actor. And, [1:12:53] I kind of like fell in love with his talent. [1:12:55] So that's why he was in Cutthroat City. He's in the Wu-Tang series. He plays Raekwon. And now he's the star of my new film. So we kind of got this, I hate to say it, but we kind of got this Denzel Spike Lee energy, this Kubla, Michael B energy. I really... [1:13:12] like this guy. But on this particular film, yes. [1:13:16] I decided to write it and direct it.

[1:13:20] And, [1:13:21] I'm back to the basic, right? Quentin Tantino presented my first film, and now here's my fourth film, and he's back in the building. And one of my favorite songs from that first soundtrack is Baddest Man Alive that you did with Black Keys. Dude, that song. That song killed it. Shout out to Dan and Patrick, yo. Yeah, I love those two guys. They're cool as fuck. And that song kills it. That song kills it. That's such a good song. [1:13:51] that song was walk out walk out for the ufc i i seen it on a fucking car commercial one day did you guys listen to the lyrics right i guess all you need is that hook right yeah on this on this uh how we doing on time we good yeah we're playing on this on this particular film uh i got a guy named you know jason isbell yeah sure yes so jason isbell did a song [1:14:17] in the film is called Comic Book Life. And... [1:14:24] It was my first collaboration with him as well. And it was a pleasure. [1:14:31] Lyrics go, Jesus Christ. [1:14:35] Jesus Christ may have walked on water and Superman flies through the sky. [1:14:42] the immigrant [1:14:44] cross the border... [1:14:46] He's looking for a better life, trying to find it. [1:14:50] He's reminded that dreams are born to die. His reality is,

[1:14:55] kills his fantasy. [1:14:58] It's not a comic book life. You know what I mean? So it goes on. [1:15:03] um and so i try to when i do films to try to make like a unique [1:15:08] musical collaboration. Of course, that was me and the Black Keys back then. And on this film, we got like music from Jason Isbell. We got Clarences from the Isley Brothers who, check this out, bro. [1:15:23] I'm on a plane. [1:15:24] Three days ago, heading to Atlanta to show the film, [1:15:28] Guess who's sitting in first class in the seat right there? Ron Isley. I never met him before. I'm like the big fan. I love his music. I got two of his songs in my movie. And I'm like, I'm going to show and I look over. I'm like, my wife's like, yeah, that's Ron. And I was like, I got a chance to get up and thank him. [1:15:44] for his work and for even allowing his music to be in my film because that's special. [1:15:53] Oh, that's cool. Are you a Ron Isley fan? [1:15:55] Not really. You're not the Icy Brothers, bro? Listen, bro, you got to, let me, I got to put you on some Icy Brothers, bro. [1:16:03] If you know, I'm quite sure your love life is good. All right. [1:16:08] I'm quite sure you got a good love life, bro. But if you ever get into any love life trouble. [1:16:13] Okay. Put it on the ice, Lee Brothers. It will smoothen out. Tell me what to get. I'm going to say sensual. Sensual? Yeah. [1:16:21] Put that one on. [1:16:23] And, um, [1:16:25] And, yeah, I'm going to just give you that one because –

[1:16:29] The way that comes on, bro, your shoulders are going to start moving and shit. Okay. All right. Come in with two glasses of wine. I'm telling you, bro, you're going to be good. [1:16:42] Yeah. I'll check it out. This episode is brought to you by Visible. How many of you are currently listening to this podcast on your phone? If you are chronically online, like most of us are these days, your wireless network should be too. [1:16:59] 5G and unlimited hotspot, all powered by Verizon's 5G network, the perks of big wireless for half the cost. Visible isn't just a wireless plan. It's unlimited wireless designed to keep you connected and no contract holding you back. Switch today at visible.com. [1:17:29] Save $10 on your first month when you use promo code ROGAN, an exclusive offer for podcast listeners. [1:17:37] This episode is brought to you by SimpliSafe. One thing you probably don't think about when you're planning the perfect summer getaway is protecting your home. But if disaster strikes, you want to be prepared. Even better, if it can be stopped before it happens. So check out SimpliSafe. They're the smarter option when it comes to home security because their systems help prevent and stop crime in real time before it starts.

[1:18:07] system and set it up in one afternoon by yourself or even sooner. It's one of many reasons why millions of people continue to trust and use SimpliSafe. Everyone deserves to have peace of mind, which is why I'm happy to partner with SimpliSafe again and offer an exclusive discount. Right now, you can get 50% off your new system by visiting simplisafe.com slash rogan. That's [1:18:37] Who's a... [1:18:39] um who's your favorite musician oh boy i don't think i have a favorite musician i don't even have a favorite genre you know i i like all i mean if you look at my spotify green room playlist it's all over the place it goes from nina simone to bill withers to wu tang to leonard skinner to led zeppelin it's all over the place to gary clark jr to it's everywhere i i move around [1:19:09] dope shit i like to move around i like all kinds of shit i'll listen to dwight yokum and i'll follow it up with um you know cool g rap i like uh you know one of my favorite albums ever is when um the brand new heavies did you ever listen to brand new heavies when they got heavy rhyme experience did you listen to that i don't know if i know that particular oh brand new heavies got together

[1:19:39] Who else is in there? God, it's like... [1:19:42] There's a ton of different people that they did these tracks with. So they have, like, the brand-new Heavies playing the music. And, like, Heavy Rhyme Experience is the name of the track. Gangsters in it. Main Source. Yeah. What year is this, bro? 92, I think. Wow. 92, yeah. Right, right. Because I remember that first album. Oh, my God. You've got to listen to some of this shit. Yeah, because by now, 92 was what happened to me in 1992. I'm on my own dick now. I don't listen to nobody. I'm just Wu-Tang-ed out. [1:20:12] No, I'm trying to make it, so I'm like, "Yeah." - Yeah, oh, I get it. - But, so I missed it. - Oh, yeah. - I actually missed a lot of things during my career, bro. I realized, like, I'm going backwards. [1:20:23] Like there was a point in my life where I couldn't stay in R&B. Really? It made me nauseous. I'm serious. Like if I'm driving... [1:20:32] And R&B's on, I felt, no, I was so fucking hip-hop, bro. Because you're so concentrated. Yeah, it was weird. That makes sense, though. Yeah, it makes sense. Yeah, because you were on the grind. You were really trying to make it happen. [1:20:44] Now, give me now I play R&B, me and my wife, we be dancing around the motherfucking house. I mean, there was a point in time where I was only into 90s hip hop, like 90s hip hop was my shit. Because that was when I was young and I was on the road a lot. And that was like my getting fired up music was like 90s hip hop. But then I started expanding and then I got into like a lot of like old classic rock and roll.

[1:21:14] It's dependent upon your mood, but there's so much different shit that you could listen to. Right. But this, you got to listen to some of this heavy rhyme experience. Yeah, I'm going to put that on my list right there. [1:21:23] Play him that Coogee rap death threat. [1:21:26] This is like one of my all. So in the green room, we'll have to cut this out. [1:21:31] on the podcast, unfortunately, because we don't want to get dinged. [1:21:35] in the green room playlist. This is like one of my first beginning of the night when the comedy show starts. And we're in the green room getting fired up, pouring a couple of drinks. Everybody's getting fired up. Someone's rolling a blunt. [1:21:47] This is one of my favorite songs to start the Green Room playlist. Hit me with it. [1:21:53] This is Cool G Rap and the brand new Heavies. Okay. It's great. And the Gangstar, Hectic, that's another one of my favorites. You know what's so cool about it for me? So I never heard it. [1:22:03] But it immediately like put me right back in Stapleton projects, like right back. [1:22:08] in that time of me like my because cool g rap is love that dude so put me right there thank you cock blocking one of my all-time favorite talks right right talk like sex um i mean he's so many ill street blues ill street blues amazing and cool g rap i just think in mainstream just doesn't get the respect he deserves from like the influence that he had in the 90s yeah i think that i think that the artists we get it to him but yeah you're right the the mainstream yeah people there's so

[1:22:38] Right. And I'm like, oh, sit down. Sit down. Let me play some shit for you. And I didn't ever. He told me this years later that the G stood for genius. [1:22:48] And he's a fucking genius, even though we got the jizzle, the genius in our crew. [1:22:52] Coogee Rap is a genius, man. I was blessed to do a couple of tracks with him in my catalog. We actually got a couple that we did together and a couple that I just produced with him and Inspector Deck and things of that nature. So that's one of the greatest blessings of the art is that you do the same as whether you're doing comedy, whether you're doing your physicality, that you have people that you admired. [1:23:19] And then all of a sudden, [1:23:20] They're your peers. You're collaborating. Yeah, yeah. You're doing shit with them. Yeah, I know. It's very exciting. Just being able to hang out with them, you know? We went to dinner with Quentin Tarantino and Roger Avery, and then they came to the comedy show, and then we were all hanging out in the green room. Right. And everybody was like, this is the fucking coolest night of all time. We were just chilling and hanging out with Quentin Tarantino and Roger Avery at the mothership green room. I didn't want to beat that. It's hard to beat, man. [1:23:50] That was so fun. [1:23:55] Speaking of Quentin, when I... [1:23:57] had a cut [1:23:58] that was, um, you know, worthy to show him, uh, [1:24:03] My buddy Javid and my buddy Abizar, they are [1:24:07] So Jared kind of owns the old Desi Arnaz studio. Oh, wow. He's the guy that started Red Cameras. And he has this amazing screening room.

[1:24:18] And so he said, yo, [1:24:20] You can screen it here. [1:24:22] For Quentin. I said, "All right, cool." So we finally got the date to do it and I go there and his plus one is Fincher. [1:24:30] Oh, wow. Exactly. So I'm just like, oh, crazy. Yeah. So now like, okay, whoa. Okay. [1:24:36] uh... in it and it was in our play the film to them and [1:24:39] is once there was another great night, [1:24:40] some great, what was we sipping on? We were sipping on some great scotch. Yeah, we had some great scotch. I don't smoke weed like that no more. So, you know, do you still smoke weed? What happened when you stopped? I just... [1:24:56] I don't function good in public, old weed. Who does? Well. Who does? [1:25:04] Okay. People think they do. Exactly. But I don't want to see that photo. I don't want to. That photo. Yeah, I don't want to be that guy no more. It's like if I'm home, also to be honest with you, if I smoke weed, bro. [1:25:17] I started doing Kung Fu, bro. Really? Yeah, I'm either going to sit quiet and be a total... Oh, you start... Yeah, and motherfuckers like, yo, what's this? Yeah, exactly. I'll start doing shit like that. [1:25:29] with a fucking... [1:25:30] suit on or something. That sounds fun. [1:25:36] You know, so I kind of 2015 was when I when I stopped. Really? Yeah. Completely. Completely. [1:25:42] Maybe, I mean, yes, for completely, but then I said I would only smoke with two or three people in the world.

[1:25:50] One of them is Quentin Tarantino, because we watch our kung fu movies. We're not going nowhere. If I have some weed with him, I know that I'm in a... [1:26:00] You know, no photos is happening. Right, right, right. You're not going to see the Zonky lizard. [1:26:05] My older brother I smoke with, I won't say his name because [1:26:08] I don't know if people know he smoked. I think everybody knows he smoked, but I won't say his fucking name. And that Barney see him. [1:26:15] once a year, twice a year, you know what I mean? Um, [1:26:19] And that's really it. And even like I ever smoked a blunt with Method, man. [1:26:24] in over 12 years bro. Wow. And that's my [1:26:28] That's my... He's the king of smoking anyway. But that was like my... But I just... Like I said, I just don't like how... [1:26:35] it just doesn't fit my today's personality. So I'm a sipper now. I'm going to sip on some, not no syrup. I know what you mean. A little scotch. A little tequila. I love tequila. Mezcal. There's nothing wrong with all those things. I think they're all tools. And I think one of the things about tools is you can misuse them. And I think there's a lot of people that just live in the cloud. And they just get high all the time. And then they just feel like their life is out of control. [1:27:05] becomes the only solution. But it's really, you just started abusing the tool. I think marijuana is an excellent tool for creativity. And the way I like it the most is writing. I think it's the greatest thing ever for writing. There's something that happens with just not a lot, just a little bit of weed. Just all of a sudden, bing, ideas start sparking off in your head. Then I go, I don't think that these ideas would exist without this stuff. That's one of the things that Carl Sagan

[1:27:35] Jimmy, what's that famous Carl Sagan quote on cannabis? But Carl Sagan, who's obviously like one of the most famous astronomers of all time, he had – and wrote that great movie Contact, that great book Contact. He had this – [1:27:50] quote about cannabis that I always like to say to people that want to say it's for dummies. Because it's like, no, man, there's something to it. You could look like a dummy if you [1:28:02] abuse it, just like you look like an idiot if you get so drunk that you can't walk. It's the same thing, but a little bit, just a little bit sometimes just fires up. The illegality becomes outrageous and impediment to full utilization of a drug which helps produce the serenity and insight, sensitivity and fellowship so desperately needed in this increasingly mad and dangerous world. That was one quote, but there was another quote that he had about ideas that are available [1:28:32] through cannabis that aren't available without it. That his perception, and obviously, here's a guy that, I mean, what better way to utilize weed than to smoke a little and stare at the fucking vastness of the cosmos and just try to... [1:28:47] Well, that's exactly what I mean for me, right? So, so if I, so it's only two things going to happen for me. I'm a smoke. [1:28:56] I would just be like even if I'll be in here finding fucking constellations and shit. You see what I mean? Yeah. Or? Kung fu. I'm doing kung fu. That's, those sound like two good things. Yeah, I'm not knocking them, but it's definitely uh, my schedule. It doesn't fit in. That's the thing is like what is life? Is life about schedule? Is life about enjoying moments? And I think there's, there's something to be said for enjoying moments and there's certain things that will help enhance moments. And I think uh,

[1:29:26] That's where cannabis comes into play. I think the problem with it is the problem with anything that human beings – [1:29:33] abuse, whether it's soda, chocolate, whatever, alcohol, food, people abuse things. They go too far with it. You don't use it correctly. And I think it's also part of the problem with it being illegal. One of the things about alcohol being legal is we understand what a dose is. If I give you a shot of tequila and we both clink glasses and we do a shot, we understand the dose. That is [1:30:02] We all know weed. You know, you get a hold of some Snoop's weed. Some people are just, they're dealing with botanists that are on another planet, man. Let me say one thing about Snoop's weed one day, bro. All right. [1:30:13] When I was smoking, I did an interview with him. [1:30:16] And that's when he had that GSC, he had the G, he had some network that he had. And we was talking about my movie and then I was going, everything was fine. [1:30:25] Like, you know, he's he rolling it, you know, he's talking and he lit that motherfucker up. [1:30:31] and pass that shit, bro. [1:30:33] I hit that shit, hit it back, hit it again. [1:30:37] I'm getting the fuck out of here. [1:30:40] And I was gone. Yeah, that's Joey Diaz weed, too. Joey Diaz got that same kind of weed. I've given it to some people, and I'm like, careful, that's Joey Diaz weed. And they get scared, like, oh, Jesus. Yeah, you got to go home and get a pillow ready, because that shit is going to fucking... And he could do it all day. I know, that's what's crazy. Him and Method Man, out of my...

[1:31:04] And I give Burner Boy in that category as well. Those are the three most people that I've seen very... [1:31:12] weed tolerant. [1:31:13] like, like, like [1:31:15] Like they could be on the third one. [1:31:17] And then you hit it and you're like, what the fuck, yo? How the fuck are y'all... [1:31:23] Oh going like that they go it all day long yeah, but when Snoop was in here He just kept rolling blunts and I was like, how are you still awake? How are you? How do you function? I? [1:31:33] But they're so accustomed to it that their tolerance is so high and that feeling of just being in the cloud all the time. They're fine with it. Did you find that other quote? There's multiple quotes. He had an essay, so. It was something about ideas being available that aren't. [1:31:50] That was the big quote. Yeah, it didn't say it. [1:31:55] understand himself. It doesn't say that in here. That's okay. [1:31:58] I film it all. No worries. I should have found it. I should have had it ready. [1:32:02] The point is it's like it's a tool, and you could use any tool correctly, or you could use it and abuse it incorrectly. So what's your frequency of smoking? Like you smoke once a day, once a week? I just wish it was legal. If it was legal, then people could – It is legal in many places, isn't it? Yeah, but it's not federally legal. It's just got changed to Schedule 3. So Schedule 3 is the same as Tylenol with codeine. So what does that mean? Does it mean that you have to get a prescription for it? [1:32:32] So it doesn't carry the same – the crazy thing is it's completely legal in California and it's generating tax revenue. It's completely legal in Colorado, generating tax revenue. And then people always want to point to the negative aspects of it. But like you could have negative aspects with everything else that's legal too. Think about how many people die from obesity every year, obesity-related diseases. Let's put that into perplexity. Put that into our AI sponsor.

[1:33:02] obesity-related diseases every year. So should we regulate food? Should we regulate the amount of food that people are able to consume? Should we stop people? Should we make cake and ring dings and ho-ho? Should we make that shit illegal? No. You have to have some personal responsibility and some self-control and an understanding of what the ramifications are. What are the dangers of overeating or eating the wrong kinds of food? That's the same with [1:33:32] If you think that alcohol should be illegal, well, you're going to – people are going to drink it, and then you're just going to empower organized crime like they did during the prohibition. [1:33:40] Okay, how about this? World Health Organization reports that at least 2.8 million people die each year as a result of being overweight or obese. [1:33:50] That's fucking crazy. That's crazy, bro. Globally, it's three to five million people a year. Wait, so where's the 2.8 at? That's here? I don't know. No, here is U.S. Okay. U.S. is here. So U.S., it's 280,000 to 325,000 per year. They knocked out opioids. Knocked it out of the park. So we're all worried about opioids, and no one's worried about pizza. [1:34:20] But that doesn't mean that pizza should be illegal. Yeah, you got to get it. Especially New York pizza, bro. That's the best pizza. Best pizza. Connecticut. New Haven. [1:34:31] You just have to have an understanding of what to do and not to do. Don't eat pizza 24 hours a day every day. You'll die. Don't eat a pound of salt. You eat a pound of salt, you'll be dead. Wasn't there a documentary with a guy?

[1:34:47] Supersize me. Yeah. What was he eating every day? He was eating McDonald's. Yeah, all day, every day for every meal. And that was like 30 days before the Grim Reaper started knocking at the door? Yeah, he wasn't doing well. He had all sorts of liver problems. [1:35:01] just release some subscription where you get like, it's like $52 a month and you can eat as much as you want. [1:35:08] I think they just did that today. [1:35:10] What's that look, Jerry? What's that look like? That doesn't make any sense. I know. It doesn't make any sense. $52. I think they just did that today. I saw it on my Google News alert this morning. Did that make sense? [1:35:22] No, it doesn't make sense unless they're limiting the amount of meals that you can have in a day. [1:35:28] But if you have a subscription, say if you have a McDonald's subscription and it's $52 a month and they – [1:35:34] And that's all you eat. [1:35:36] You could live off of $52 a month. Well, not according to that documentary. No. That's two months. You out of here. Well, what if you only ate their salads and you only ate their beef patties without any bread? Yeah. [1:35:49] It would probably be better off. It would probably be okay. But even their beef probably has like fillers in it and shit. [1:35:55] I'm still living a vegan lifestyle. Still? Yeah. What do you get mostly for your protein? Mostly beans. I probably do consume a little bit too much soy, I think, because I do eat tofu. Shout out to our friend CK. Hey, in the building. Oh, yeah, he bought in. Yeah. Wuchow. That place. Rules. Yes. He bought us lunch, which we will eat after we finish this. Phenomenal Chinese restaurant here in Austin. Phenomenal.

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[1:39:55] Does McDonald's own Chipotle? No. [1:39:58] I don't know. Do they own Chipotle? I'm bringing up Chipotle because I got Chipotle. I did a campaign with them. [1:40:04] And they gave me a card. [1:40:07] lifelong card. I could eat at Chipotle for free for the rest of my life. Really? That's part of the campaign? No, this was like the gift for you. I didn't even know that that was a thing. And I could have 10 people [1:40:23] with 24 hour notice. And I think it's, uh, I could do a catered event at least once a month. [1:40:29] Wow. For the rest of my life. That's a pretty good deal. That is a real thing. [1:40:33] Really? That's like a celebrity gold card thing they offer. Oh, nice. Some people have gotten their hands on it through different ways. Like Travis Barker has one here. Interesting. I got one. Travis, he's a vegan too. Yeah, I'm a vegan too. So he's eating just the bean burritos and stuff? [1:40:51] But it's a free toes. They got some shit called so free though. What is that? [1:40:56] Hopefully there's no chicken in there. No, I don't think there's no chicken. I think it's like... [1:41:00] It's like a vegan... [1:41:02] Vegan meat. So most of your animal or most of your protein is from what? Is from tofu, beans? Chickpeas. I love chickpeas. Chickpeas. Lentils. I'm crazy for lentils. My wife would throw a pot of lentils on. Pea protein is really good. [1:41:16] P protein. Hemp protein is really good. Hemp is good. Hemp protein is, I think, is one of the few plant-based proteins that contains all the amino acids. And it's very bioavailable, too.

[1:41:27] Thank you. [1:41:27] Pumpkin seeds. Pumpkin seeds? Pumpkin seeds. Really? Yeah. Look up pumpkin seeds. Well, pumpkin seeds probably have the most... [1:41:34] Best protein. Really? Pumpkin seeds. They taste good, too. I keep them in my car. When they're roasted? Yeah. Roasted pumpkin seeds. A little salt on them. Trust me, every time I get in the whip, [1:41:45] Pumpkin seeds. Pumpkin seeds. Wow. What does it say about the... [1:41:49] They reduce the risk of cancer and improve bowel and prostate health. Pumpkin seeds, bro. That's it. Rich in protein, fiber, unsaturated fats, and must-have minerals. [1:42:02] Pepitas are a great healthy snacking option. All right. [1:42:06] Yeah, pumpkin seeds are delicious. Yeah, so you get those, you get some chickpeas. Isn't it weird that people, when they make, like... [1:42:12] They're fucking jack-o'-lanterns. They scoop that shit out and throw it away. Yeah, going to me. It's like the most, the healthiest part of the pumpkin. [1:42:20] That's weird. It's weird what we throw away. Like we're just so used to like waste. Yeah. So used to like having an abundance of food that we're not concentrating on this part of the plant that has the most protein. Right. In the plant. Probably the most nutritious part of the pumpkin. Yeah. [1:42:36] Well... [1:42:38] you know, my buddy was here yesterday. He, uh, [1:42:41] You don't throw away too much of that meat for that Texas barbecue, you guys. No. God, this motherfucking boy. No, they don't fuck around. Yo, there was a 15-minute wait line around the corner of 200 people. Where were you at? Which place? It was, I don't know the name of it. Cherry Black's?

[1:42:59] I don't know because I just drove at my man. I was okay. And so, you know, he couldn't come out to Texas and not get some Texas barbecue. You know, I'm a vegan. I'm going to do it. I mean, I only have some good beans and macaroni. And it's just a bunch of different stuff that you can get there. Potato salad. Yeah. Well, potato salad. Oh, that's right. It's got my milk and eggs. [1:43:21] Yeah, you've been a vegan for a lot, since the 90s, right? Yeah. [1:43:25] Well, no, I started vegetarian. [1:43:28] In the 90s and by the time I got the 2000 I started you don't fuck with eggs at all nothing. I got rid of the eggs. No. Yeah I don't the eggs [1:43:36] What got me off the fucking eggs, bro? [1:43:40] I think my personality got me off the eggs. [1:43:43] Why is that? I don't know. You know, it's like, I'm like, what's the word? I could be scornful. Is that the word? Like when you like... [1:43:52] like [1:43:53] Like, I don't know. Like a Felix Unger type of shit. You know what I mean? You ever watch Felix Unger? Odd Couple? Yeah. Like, you don't want pits in his orange juice or some shit. So, Egg's... [1:44:05] Like one day, it's just the slime of the egg. It's just cooking it. [1:44:11] Yeah, but it didn't got that little white shit in it, bro. [1:44:16] It's so good for you. And if you have your own chickens, like I have my own chickens, eggs are karma-free protein. They're like pets. They give you free protein. Right, right. Because they're laying an egg that will never be a chicken because it's not fertilized. Exactly. So it's just free protein. Right. And they lay them every day, basically, or close to it.

[1:44:41] pick bugs and grass. What do you feed them? Chicken food. You know, you buy chicken feed and we also feed them some table scraps and vegetables and different things, but they're carnivores, man, which is really wild. Like, you see them eat a mouse, it's crazy. A what? They tear mice. You've never seen a chicken eat a mouse? I've never seen the chicken eat a mouse. Chickens are straight up [1:45:01] dinosaurs. There's some great videos of chickens around a cat and a cat's playing with a mouse and the chicken just runs up on the cat and steals the mouse from him and tears it apart. I didn't see that, yeah. I fed a chicken that I, well... [1:45:15] one chicken stole the mouse, but this is what happened. So, uh... [1:45:19] In my house in California, we used to have a wrought iron fence, and we replaced it with a glass fence. Unfortunately, hawks couldn't tell that it was a glass fence, and we lost a few hawks. Boom. And they slammed into it headfirst and got KO'd, and some of them died. We lost like two hawks died. It was really sad. But one of them survived, and my family, my wife and my daughters, took the hawk and put it in like a large cardboard box. [1:45:49] We had to bring it in on Monday. And so they go, well, what are hawks? How do you feed it? We went to the store and the pet store. And the pet food store had these things called pinkies. And what they are is like little baby mice. Mm-hmm. [1:46:02] And so you put these little baby mice in with the hawk, and the hawk ate most of them, but one of them lived. One of them the hawk didn't eat it. The hawk had enough pinkies. It ate enough.

[1:46:12] My daughters are like, "I want to keep that one alive." I'm like, "It's not going to live. It doesn't have the milk. It doesn't have its mother. It hasn't been weaned. It's going to die." And I said, "Let me just feed it to the chickens." I didn't even know if they were going to eat it. I didn't know what was going to happen. I put that little mouse down in the cage and that chicken just ran up and snatched it and they all stole it away. So watch this cat. This cat's fucking with this mouse. The cats, you think cats are ruthless. Yeah, he's playing with this motherfucker. But he's playing with it. [1:46:38] He wants to watch it hop away, and then the chicken gets annoyed after a while, and the chicken's like, give me that shit, bitch. And when the chicken runs up on the mouse... [1:46:46] I watch this instantaneously. As soon as the chicken realizes this, look, give me that shit. It just starts tearing apart. Chickens aren't into playing with things at all. They just, nah, this is dinner. Yeah. Just shaking it and mangan. Well, they were all chasing each other around the chicken coop where this one chicken had the mouse in its mouth and they were all trying to steal it from her mouth. Oh, they wanted it more than anything. That's crazy. They don't act like that with chicken food. [1:47:14] at all right right they want some they want some meat well yeah or you dried worms or that's one of them like worm meal you buy these like boxes of dried and you shake it and they come running and you'll like leave that out for them they love that so okay so now your chickens you got your own how many i have 15 15 chickens yeah so you're getting what two how many a bunch of eggs like probably at least 10 eggs every day wow and so because they don't always lay them every day but

[1:47:44] You know exactly where it came from. There's no hormones, no pesticides, no herbicides, no nothing. Let me interrupt our podcast for a moment. Okay. This is the RZA. [1:47:54] I'm sitting here with Joe Rogan. I have a new film coming out May 1st. It's called One Spoon of Chocolate, starring Sean McMoore and Paris Jackson, produced by Quentin Tarantino in theaters everywhere May 1st. And that's only a couple days from now. Today is the 27th, so it's this Friday, May 1st. This Friday. There it is. One Spoon of Chocolate. [1:48:14] because one spoon of chocolate can do what? Change a whole glass of milk. Change the whole glass of milk. [1:48:21] But anyway... [1:48:22] Eggs. It's good for you. They're really good for you, healthy, and karma-free. You don't have to worry about anything suffering. [1:48:31] I don't complain about as a vegan. [1:48:34] and I don't cook with it or use it. But if some butter slipped on my shit, mm-hmm. [1:48:39] I'm not going to flip out. Yeah, you shouldn't because it's just milk that comes out of a cow. It doesn't, you know, especially if you get it from an organic farm. It's no big deal. Right. So that's the only thing that, you know, I don't, you know, I don't, I use all that plant-based butter. And they got this thing called, well, now Country Crock got plant-based butter. [1:49:00] avocado oil butter. Really? Yeah. How the fuck do they make that? [1:49:05] That's the problem with all that stuff that's like fake meat and fake this is that it's really processed. Right. I think if you want to eat vegetables and vegetarian diet, the way to do it is the way the Indians do it. It's like Indian food from India. There's a lot of amazing Indian vegetarian food. I stay in an Indian restaurant. Oh, so good.

[1:49:35] probably thousands of years. Cleans you right out. Oh, that's true. It opens up the gates. Bam-a-lam-a. Let's go. Let's go, baby. [1:49:43] Don't, don't have a flight. Yeah. Exactly. If you do get a seat in the back. Yeah. Yeah. It's a, [1:49:50] But there was a place that I used to live near, near my old house in California, that was in an Indian neighborhood. And there was this Indian restaurant that was like a cafeteria style where you just go and – I didn't even know what the fuck the names of these things were. They had photos of whatever it was. But it was all in Indian, and I would just point it. And it was all – everyone who ate there was Indian. Right. It was very few regular – I mean no white people, no African-Americans. Wait. It was all Indians. Wait. I feel like I might have fucking been there. [1:50:20] In the valley. In the valley. In the valley, yeah. Yeah, it's not a restaurant. No, it's like a store in the back of the store. You've been to that place. Yeah, and you can buy some fucking spices of your own. Yes, yes. God, I wish I remembered the name of the place because the spices were awesome too. [1:50:33] It was a great place. And in the back, they had this cafeteria style. It was all Indian people. Yep, yep. Phenomenal. Phenomenal restaurant. I'm the kind of guy that do that too. I'll go to the Asian market and shit. I'll go, fuck. I know that. [1:50:47] I'm getting a bunch of good shit. Oh, that's it. India sweets and spices. Damn, Jamie's a wizard. [1:50:53] Nice. Where's that joint? [1:50:54] Canoga Park. That's it. Canoga Park. That's exactly it. That's the spot. That's not far from our office. Yeah. [1:51:02] Oh, that's real close to where my old studio was too. And I was on my, I still got the same office though, right over there. Yo, bro.

[1:51:10] Your old studio, right? Yeah. You know what happened to it, right? No. Bro... [1:51:14] That whole shit, they tore that shit down. They did? It's now the LA Rams training. [1:51:20] facility. Oh, wow. Do you remember that AMC? Yeah, bro. [1:51:25] really? Tone it down, bro. They're building some other shit there. Wow. That's crazy. That is crazy. Because back, that's for the fans. You know, I could see Joe's office from my window, his studio from my window, and [1:51:38] back in those days and shit. - Wow. - But now, [1:51:41] All that is the L.A. Rams... [1:51:44] training facility so i watched the rams train and shit from my window well that's crazy yeah that neighborhood is very interesting there's a lot of cool stuff there's a phenomenal mexican spot down there what is it called the big burrito that's what it's called right [1:51:59] I think that's it. There's this phenomenal Mexican joint and you go in there. It's all like Mexican soap operas playing. Everybody speaks Spanish. No one there speaking English. And the food is sensational. That's it. El Big Burrito. El Big Burrito. That place fucking rules. I when I lived there, I didn't tell people about it because I didn't want to blow up the spot. I wanted to be able to go in there. I would never bring it up on the podcast. [1:52:26] And they've reached out to me thanking me because we've brought it up a few times. But that place fucking rules. You want to get like a legit burrito, legit quesadilla, legit tacos, like lengua tacos, like cow tongue. I know you don't eat meat, but if you did. And even their bean burritos are fucking phenomenal. It's just like real, legit, spicy Mexican food. Well, to me, it's all about the sauce. If you got good salsa, you know what I mean? Yeah. Oh, that place is so good.

[1:52:56] I mean, there's those places that you find in L.A. that are real hard to find in Texas. Texas, you get a lot of Tex-Mex, you know, whereas in L.A. you get straight Mexican. Let's talk about that for a moment because I actually thought about that because New York, I mean, now it's okay. But New York, we, for years, bro... [1:53:17] We didn't have good Mexican food, bro. [1:53:20] They do now? [1:53:21] Yeah, because now it's been more some more brothers come came in and is that there's some some some pocket communities But trust me in New York, bro. I [1:53:29] I thought I was eating Mexican food. [1:53:33] That's why I went to California. Yeah. And I was like, okay. San Diego has some of the absolute best Mexican food in the world. But I find Texas... [1:53:42] And New Mexico. Like, I find this part of the country as well having a lot of good flavors. But I'm interested, how do you, like, if you were to say from your travels, what [1:53:56] the best Mexican food? Is it California? Is it the Midwest? [1:54:00] What would you say? Well, there's really good Mexican food in Texas, but you've got to seek it out. [1:54:06] Whereas there's a lot of Tex-Mex here, which is also really good, but you could tell it's not straight Mexican. [1:54:14] You know what I mean? It's like a fusion. And in California, you don't have any of that. In California, it's just Mexican. And there's so many great Mexican restaurants in California. San Diego is filled with them, but LA is filled with them too. But it's spots like that, like the big burrito, where you go to a place like that, you walk in, you're like, oh my God, I'm home. Because it's like the smells, and then you see the Spanish soap operas playing. Right, right. This is real. This is legit.

[1:54:38] Yeah, I was driving down the street last night and shit, and I just found this really funny, right? So I'm driving down the street. I mean, I'm not driving, personally. I don't drive. But the car, my car. You don't drive at all? I don't drive. I've been driving since. [1:54:50] 2012 I haven't driven a car. How come? [1:54:54] I just let go. You know what happened, bro? What happened? [1:54:58] I was in China. [1:55:00] You don't want to drive in China? Well... [1:55:03] I got to be honest, like we was doing a film there and every time, every morning that I would go to work, [1:55:10] Thank you. [1:55:11] It almost like every day it almost happened. [1:55:15] Like it almost like that's almost car accident. Yeah. Every day. Yeah. Yeah. [1:55:19] That's so so and even even even even like when my brother Russell Crowe like we'll get to set on the morning. I love that dude. And he'll say the same thing like your Bobby like. Yeah, bro. We made it. Right. But so so then when I came home. [1:55:38] I just stopped driving, bro. [1:55:40] You just didn't want to be a part of it anymore? Nope. I haven't drove since then. Have you ever fucked with any of those Waymos? You ever gotten any of those things? You? No. But I do have a Tesla that'll drive me. [1:55:52] Have you did it? Yeah. I've had it drive me all the way home. [1:55:55] Yeah. It's crazy. [1:55:56] Yeah. How do you feel, though? Uncomfortable. I don't like it. I like driving. I do. I enjoy driving. But with my Tesla, I'll put an address, like, say, if I want to go to a restaurant or something like that, and go doo-doo, and it'll drive me. It'll stop at stop signs and stoplights. It'll change lanes if there's anything in the way. It hits the blinkers to change lanes. It turns. It does everything. Right. I mean, it literally can drive you from point A to – do you ever fuck with it, Jamie? Do you ever use it?

[1:56:26] I just found out through the update that I haven't been using full self-driving. I've been using whatever was right before that. [1:56:33] Which, to me, I thought was the exact same at... [1:56:36] Drives itself, too. [1:56:38] What's the difference? I don't know. Because it said that you're – it gave me an option to turn it on. [1:56:44] I thought I was – what? Hold on. What am I doing then? Oh, that's weird. Because it still drives itself. I don't remember because I turned – I got my – it's a part of a subscription, right, isn't it? That's when I got – I was like, wait, I thought I had it. Hold on. Yeah. Whatever. Whatever it's been doing. Whatever it is, I definitely have it. Which means a part of a subscription. You mean it ain't automatic? I think so. I think you pay more for it. I'm not sure. I don't want to talk out of turn. I also didn't understand it either, but yeah, I think so. I think you pay for it. [1:57:14] I think it's more complex. It's using a bunch of different, I don't know, making things up. I don't know. But I do know it works. If you press it, boom, boom. I saw Waymo on the way here to you. And it was right beside us. I looked in there. [1:57:29] And I was like, yo, bro. [1:57:31] Why have a steering wheel with the old school fucking... With a gear changer? Yeah. If nobody gonna drive this shit. Well, in case it breaks. And then if somehow, maybe there's an override where you could just drive it. Yeah, but still... [1:57:46] That's the grandma thing, bro. The shifter on the column. It's like, this is, we in the future. [1:57:53] There shouldn't be no steering wheel like that. My Cadillac has that.

[1:57:57] My Cadillac shifts on the column like that. That's what, what? [1:58:00] An Escalade? Yeah. Does it? Putting drive like that. I thought the shit was right here now. Uh-uh. I got my shit right here, bro. Pretty sure. Bad, bad, bad. Right? That might be for your lights or shit. No, I'm pretty sure. Okay. I mean, I have a bunch of cars, but I'm pretty- I don't drive. I don't even know. I don't drive. We're going to put a studio in at the racetrack, the Circuit of the Americas. [1:58:20] I'm going to take you around the racetrack. I'm going to put you in a car. You're going to drive around the racetrack. Oh, wait. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah, that's the suit. Not the new one. Yeah, it says 2023. No, 2026 Escalade V. Yeah. [1:58:40] Escalade. [1:58:41] Gear ship. Yeah, but it doesn't, that's not how it works. I'm 90% sure. There it is right there on the column. See it right there. That's how it is. That's what mine looks like. [1:58:51] Okay. See that little? They put it back up there. Yeah, they put it back up there. But it was down there. Because it clears all the room on your console. Right. For cups and all that stuff. Yeah, that's where mine is. I love that. So anyway, I'm coming. Well, I'm going to escalate yesterday. Right? I don't know where the gear set was at. [1:59:07] But I got the window down, getting some of this beautiful Austin Air, and a truck drives up beside me. [1:59:16] uh, [1:59:17] playing this Spanish song. He's blasting this shit. The shit sound cool like a motherfucker, right? I'm like, "Yo, what is this shit?" So I shazam it. Right? So I shazam it and then

[1:59:32] I get the song, right? Right. Right. [1:59:34] And then I start playing it in my car and the truck keeps going on. But then we, you know, we're still driving slow. [1:59:39] Then I could see the car beside me. They Shazammed it. You know what I mean? I was like, wait a minute. That's... [1:59:47] That's that doesn't happen. I mean, that's what we need again. Yeah, like where? [1:59:51] Like somebody that's playing some fucking music. You never heard the song before. [1:59:56] You like it. Yes. You got it. Yeah. And so I love Shazam. I got two Spanish songs now in my joint. [2:00:06] that is part of my [2:00:09] my new playlist yo they just got from listening to people's cars driving by like hold on that's just sound dope yeah that's a new thing right because we don't have radio as much anymore there's not a lot of people listening to the radio a lot of times you're getting new songs like oftentimes like i'll be at dinner someplace and they'll be playing music i'll go oh what is this right and i'll put my phone up in the air and try to catch it right you know that's dope that that's one of the greatest things about technology to me because [2:00:36] is that ability to know. You know, like you can know now if you want to know. You don't got to wait to know. You know what, motherfucker? [2:00:44] Like, every time you get a thought here that we're not too sure about, he could hit that button. Exactly. And give us a reference. I know. Sometimes we leave a podcast, and I'm like, maybe we should have looked that one up because it turns out that shit's not true. Well, I have beaten Google a few times now. You've won? You've beaten Google? I've beaten Google. Well, Google's a little deceptive, I think. But if you use AI, like we use perplexity, it searches for the whole Internet.

[2:01:14] use whatever Google. The problem with Google, not that it's a problem, but these are curated searches. [2:01:22] So like [2:01:23] Like say – like here's a perfect example. [2:01:26] Say if you want to find a Mexican restaurant, right, and you use Google – [2:01:31] What Google is going to do is some people are paying so that their restaurant gets to the top of the search list. That's a little bit of a problem because that might not be the best restaurant. That might just be a restaurant that paid Google. Whereas if you go to like perplexity and say in terms of like restaurant critics, what is the favorite authentic Mexican restaurant in Austin? And it will tell you. Right. [2:02:01] believe that this is it and there's no curation yet. I mean, my wife is actually, we were talking about this today, like one day they're going to fuck that up too. And people are going to pay to get that. But right now they haven't done that. So right now you could find spots, like cool spots that haven't, you know, with no curation. Exactly. And let's check, let's, let's, let's do a test real quick. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. [2:02:25] So there's 196,940,000 square miles on the planet, right? Whoa. There's 63,360 miles. [2:02:35] uh, [2:02:36] inches [2:02:37] Right? And, um... [2:02:38] in the mouth because it's 5,280 feet in a mile. So I'm going to start over. There's 196 million

[2:02:45] 940,000 [2:02:47] Square Mouse. [2:02:48] In the country. On the planet? On the planet. Okay. Okay. For one mile, that's 5,280 feet. [2:02:56] And of course, there's 12 inches in the feet. So you multiply that by 12, you'll get 63,360 inches. I want perplexity. [2:03:06] to tell me... [2:03:08] How many square inches on the planet? [2:03:12] Ooh. Let's see what you get. Boy, that number's got to be bananas. [2:03:18] I guarantee you we're going to look at a long fucking number. A lot of zeros. That's a good question. [2:03:26] Thank you. [2:03:27] That is a good question. [2:03:30] Thank you. [2:03:31] Dun, dun, dun. [2:03:34] Does it even have an answer? It's probably confused. He's like, hold on. What the fuck are you talking about? You're perplexing me. It's like, what are you doing? [2:03:43] We perplexed perplexing him. [2:03:45] Ugh. [2:03:46] Yeah, okay there. [2:03:47] There you go. Okay. Did you answer correctly the first time I typed it in? [2:03:50] 8 times 10 to the 17 square inches on Earth's surface. [2:03:55] What does that look like in a raw number? [2:03:59] Ask it what it looks like in a raw number. No, 8 with 17... [2:04:03] 17 zeros. [2:04:06] 10 to the 17th? [2:04:08] That's what that is? 17 zeros? [2:04:10] So basically, it took the 6, 3... [2:04:13] 360 and they squared it. Uh-huh.

[2:04:16] And that's how they got to there. [2:04:18] Wow. [2:04:20] But it didn't give us no fucking a direct answer, right? Well, it did, but it did it with 10 to the 17. Okay, so let's do this now. Type that out. Type that number out. [2:04:31] And divided by four. [2:04:33] Okay, let's see, type it out. [2:04:35] I'm going to see what this looks like. [2:04:37] This must look bananas. [2:04:40] Whoa! [2:04:44] And now divide it by four. Before you do that, can you ask it, how would you say that? [2:04:51] I was trying to figure it out. Like it's not a trillion. It's not a quadrillion. Like what is that? It's a quintillion. Is it a quintillion? This is – [2:04:59] Billion, right? [2:05:01] Yeah. [2:05:03] So that's... [2:05:04] A quadro? Wait, no. [2:05:06] Just to ask it, how would you say that? [2:05:11] Please. [2:05:12] How would you say that? [2:05:18] Mmm. [2:05:22] 800 quadrillion square inches. Wow. [2:05:27] Remember when you were a kid, you'd think that was a fake word? Yeah. Bro, I want a quadrillion money. Would you believe that the earth weighs, the atmosphere weighs 15 quintillion tons? [2:05:39] Just the atmosphere? Yeah, just the atmosphere. Just the gases. The planet Earth weighs six sextillion.

[2:05:47] Kanye said the wildest shit on my podcast once. He goes, [2:05:50] How much does the earth cost? [2:05:53] Mm. [2:05:54] Right? And at the time, I was like, what? And then I thought about it. I was like, oh, shit. Like, property is valuable. You can own property. Right. Right? Like, everybody kind of – everything is owned. Like, how much is the earth? That's a big – that's a – [2:06:09] Well, you could get the number there too, because well, if you count the minimums, [2:06:13] Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you've got to hold another hustle. And then there's the ocean. And the ocean. The ocean. And the fish. Yeah, right. And then all the animals. [2:06:23] Wow. And then... [2:06:26] It has to appreciate day by day. Why don't I put that into perplexity? If you were going to sell the earth. [2:06:33] How much would it be worth? Ooh. Including everything on it. [2:06:38] That's a mind-fucking-half. Economists usually estimate the world's real estate, all land plus the buildings on it, a few hundred trillion U.S. dollars, not counting oceans, polar ice, or unowned space. That sounds like a bargain. [2:06:52] Yeah. A few hundred trillion, that's it? Nah. Okay, let's say, let's ask, what is the worth of the earth? [2:07:02] all its property, all its minerals, [2:07:05] animals, [2:07:07] N objects. [2:07:11] That's a crazy question. [2:07:13] God. [2:07:14] That's a crazy question. Yeah, it's a good one, though. Yeah, everything on Earth, every watch, every diamond ring, every hat.

[2:07:22] One dollar. Every piece of art. [2:07:25] Well, I mean, the question I typed in was property and lands. Right. What is the value of everything on earth? I like what you said. Every electronic... [2:07:39] value of everything on earth, including... [2:07:44] including animals... [2:07:47] minerals. [2:07:49] property. [2:07:50] and objects. [2:07:54] Oh boy. [2:07:55] I wonder how it's going to figure this out. [2:07:59] I bet it will. It's going to look off of people who have rink. It's going to freak out. It's going to blow a gasket. It's not figuring it out. It's going to give you something. There's no precise number. [2:08:07] Somewhere in the quadrillions to sextillions of U.S. dollars, depending on what you count and how you value it. It's just plausible attempts to add it up. Right. [2:08:18] There's no single agreed upon price tag for everything on earth. But this is the answer to Kanye's question. [2:08:23] But you know what, though? Now, I... [2:08:25] Hold on, we just learned something there. [2:08:28] It said quadrillion to what? Sextillions. [2:08:31] Now, Axe, how much does the planet Earth weigh? Yeah, that's right. I mean, I already did that, but we had... [2:08:35] We've passed it before I could show you. [2:08:38] atmosphere with [2:08:39] 12 quintillion pounds. [2:08:43] In total. Yeah. I said 13, so I was off. I forgot that number. But ask how much does the planet Earth weigh? [2:08:50] Whoa.

[2:08:53] How much does the entire earth weigh? [2:08:55] Thank you. [2:08:59] I [2:09:02] Let's guess. [2:09:05] It might not. No, don't do the atmosphere. We're just trying to get the value. [2:09:09] I want to see if it gives you, I mean, the atmosphere should already be included, right? That's what I think it won't. [2:09:14] included. [2:09:18] So basically, what is that word? What is that in a word? Ask that what that is, that 13. Yeah, tell him, put it, put that, put it in pounds, not kilograms. Because that's not even seven, that's eight. What does that mean? Right. [2:09:35] Right. But what does that ask it to say that? [2:09:41] Can you say that? [2:09:44] Thank you. [2:09:45] Yeah, what does it mean? How do you say it? [2:09:48] Septillion. [2:09:50] 13 septillion pounds. [2:09:53] That doesn't sound impressive. No. No. [2:09:58] It doesn't. It sounds like a couple of lizards. You know, I believe it's wrong, bro. Why? [2:10:04] Because when you take the square miles... [2:10:07] This is a conference. [2:10:08] Right. And you multiply. [2:10:10] There's a formula to get that weight. Right. It doesn't come out to that. What does it come out to? Six sextillion. Six followed by 21 zeros. [2:10:19] This is more. [2:10:21] This was three more zeros on top of that.

[2:10:23] Yeah. [2:10:24] But it sounds good. [2:10:26] But if you take the formula... [2:10:29] of... [2:10:30] of of [2:10:31] of a sphere, of the mass. [2:10:34] Mm-hmm. This number is closer. But does it take into account the density of the inner earth? [2:10:41] Because I think that's probably where a lot of the weight is coming from, right? The density of the inner earth is immense. [2:10:48] Yeah, I mean. It's all compressed energy. Yeah, it's compressed energy. It's not hollow. If it's hollow. [2:10:54] It could be hollow. If it's hollow. Okay, hold on. We've got to take a sponsor break. This is the RZA live on the Joe Rogan podcast. Joe Rogan Experience. I have a new movie coming out. May 1st. May 1st. It's called One Spoon of Chocolate starring Shamik Moore, Paris Jackson, Blair Underwood. [2:11:18] find a better life for himself ends up in a small town where everything goes fucking bananas. In theaters everywhere. May 1st. When is it going to be available on streaming? I don't know. [2:11:30] Soon. How do you usually do that? Well, to be honest, I'm like... [2:11:35] Like Iron Fist was... What year was that out? That was 2011, 2012. And it was a different atmosphere back then, right? Pre-COVID. COVID changed a lot of movie-going habits, right? Changed everything, yeah. I want the movie-going experience to come back, though. Yeah, I do too. Yeah. I mean, there's something about going to see a great movie with a bunch of people that's a real experience. Yeah. I think...

[2:11:56] I'm so... I mean... [2:11:58] my art, my career is based on [2:12:02] Sneaking into a fucking movie theater and watching three Kung Fu movies. Yeah. So I'm a big at the cinema. I think what we did. So this particular film is actually coming through my own distribution company called 36 Cinema. And I think we did a deal with the theaters that they can have at least 30 days. A lot of people were doing 17 days in the theaters or 21 days. And cinema is suffering because of that. Because why would we go to the theater if I got it at home? You know what I mean? [2:12:32] is of course a great place to watch a movie but when you're making a movie [2:12:36] right? You're making it for the theater. We haven't, [2:12:40] TV is made for home, but cinema is made for cinema. Like we haven't, what can I say? Like the sound, the color, the framing. Like I use anamorphic lenses. [2:12:51] What does that mean? [2:12:52] Anamorphic like the lenses of the 50s when you fucking get this whole fucking scope. I [2:12:57] You know what I mean? And so, yeah, you can watch it on your phone. What is the difference? It was an anamorphic lens and a regular lens. A regular lens would be the way the way the way it bends the light in all reality. So so like you could have like 16.9. [2:13:13] Okay, so most lenses are spherical now. [2:13:16] That's that, right? Which is cool. [2:13:19] We look at anamorphic. [2:13:21] It's the way it controls the light, the way the subject is happening. And so it kind of gives you more of a cinematic feel. Well, your focus, it's certainly like a little more blurry in the background. Yep.

[2:13:33] Yeah, okay. [2:13:36] And it's the way it's compressing that light differently. [2:13:39] And so you, with this lens, do you do everything on film or is it digital? I actually shot this on digital. [2:13:49] So yeah, so I mean, I'm in a digital age, so I did shoot digital, but I did... [2:13:54] We did make 35 millimeter prints of the movie. So if you are so if you're in California and you will go to the theater called the Vista Have you ever been to the Vista? No Where's that? I think it's in Los Feliz or some shit like that. Okay. I [2:14:08] I'm bad in my Hollywood neighborhoods. I'm like, I'm still a New Yorker. Right, I get it. But the Vista Theater will show the film on 35mm for like two weeks. It'll be their starting man first. Oh, that's cool. So if you want to see it, yeah, if you want to see. And 35mm, oh, there you go, the Vista. I love this guy. Hey, Jamie. Jamie's the best. His trigger finger is a motherfucker. Oh, he's a goat. Well, he's psychic. Psychic. [2:14:31] He knows what you're talking about before you. Exactly. He's like, the vets. [2:14:37] Um... [2:14:39] So that's the Vista. So what is the difference, like the way it looks to you when you see it on 35mm versus digital? [2:14:45] Well, [2:14:46] I think the 35 millimeter kind of, it makes the colors a little more richer and darker. [2:14:52] like kind of how the 70s films look, even up to the 80s. [2:14:57] The digital one, because I've watched my film in both formats, the digital was more brighter and actually more familiar now to us. Right. We're accustomed to it. We're accustomed to it.

[2:15:19] on 35 millimeter and it was my first time seeing it on 35 millimeter i mean so and it felt [2:15:27] It felt very nostalgic. I felt like I was back. It felt like a movie. [2:15:32] only, right? I mean, not like a movie and a TV show or a movie. It felt only like, [2:15:39] a movie the only a movie experience the flickering uh when you when you you know when you're doing 35 millimeter you need [2:15:47] you know, a real camera. Right. And so the light is going from this camera from this one. Then they got to switch the wheel from this when this and it's like it's a certain thing that's happening, a certain pacing, a certain grant granular thing that's happening that for me, for my film, it felt almost like an honor. [2:16:02] to watch it like that. Oh, that's cool. Um, I want to get, make a, make a, uh, so check this out, bro. [2:16:09] Thank you. [2:16:12] So we talked about this last time I was here, but April 22nd, right? [2:16:16] That was the day. [2:16:18] that [2:16:19] I was acquitted. [2:16:20] from a crime. [2:16:23] And [2:16:24] started my life over. I was facing eight years. [2:16:28] April 22nd. That's back in 1992. [2:16:32] As you can see, a year later, [2:16:35] I'm a platinum producer. But before that, I was heading to hell. [2:16:40] April 22nd. [2:16:42] Seventipitously. [2:16:44] is the day that my film premieres on 35 millimeter. [2:16:48] And...

[2:16:49] at the Vista Theater in Hollywood, April 22nd. But you've seen the opening of the film as well. So when my character gets out of jail... [2:16:58] He marks on the calendar the day he gets out. [2:17:02] April 22nd. [2:17:04] this is a special film especially for my life I'm saying for me it's like and it was my buddy Shavo from System of a Down birthday we actually celebrate April 22nd every year because it wasn't my birthday but it was the birth of the RZA because before that I was known as Prince Rakeem [2:17:24] But after that... [2:17:26] quitting and my mother telling me, you know, you got a second chance. I was like, [2:17:31] exit Prince Joaquin and tell the RZA. Nice. That's amazing. [2:18:01] Visit Carvana.com to sell your car today. Carvana. Pickup fees may apply. [2:18:06] This episode is brought to you by Squarespace. Once you've got a great name for your business, you need a great domain. And Squarespace makes it easy to lock in a domain. You just search the name you want, buy it, and then you're ready to build. No hidden fees, no weird upsells. Go to squarespace.com slash Rogan for a free trial. And when you are ready to launch, use the code Rogan to get 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain.

[2:18:36] So when you were talking about the streaming thing, so do you – [2:18:40] Is that something that's negotiated beforehand? Like it'll be in the theaters for X amount of time? Or do you, once it's in the theater, do you then, like depending on how well it does in the theater, is that how you negotiate a streaming deal? Or how does it work? No, it works. No, it works. It's usually negotiated ahead of time. Okay. And all the streamers kind of dictate what's going to happen. So since we had this on our own company, we had a chance to make the rules ourselves. So I did make a streaming deal. [2:19:10] But I made the theatrical deal first and I gave the theaters 30 days first. And so now my streamer, he would go at my streaming distribution, which is a Samuel Goodwin. They would they would go in. I hope I pronounced that right, bro. I could fuck a word up sometime. [2:19:28] I think that's the right word. OK, OK. [2:19:33] What up, Peter? I'm the wrong guy to ask, though. Yeah, I could fuck a word up. But anyway. [2:19:37] Um... [2:19:38] So it is so [2:19:39] Yeah, he'll solicit to streamers, but we wanted a 30-day cinema experience. And in the future, I'm going to travel 45 days, bro. [2:19:49] Remember when we was kids, bro, Star Wars was in the theaters three times before you had a chance to see it come home. Yeah. And what did you do? You went back to the theater. Yeah. Because the lights, the sound, the vibe of what you're creating. I make it for the theater. I got to be honest with you. I make film for the theater. When my other film came out during the pandemic, Cutthroat City, since it was a pandemic,

[2:20:14] you know, [2:20:16] even though my contract said, [2:20:18] it should be in theaters, [2:20:21] the pandemic of it kind of made it a force majeure. Like, [2:20:24] maybe not in theaters. But my producer, Michael Mendelson, who knows good guy. [2:20:31] He said, "I didn't make this shit for no streaming, bro." Okay, I shot my shit in anamorphic lenses. I got all the sound like I made it for the theaters. [2:20:43] He was like, yeah, but the theaters ain't not popping, bro. Nobody's going to the theaters. I was like, well, I don't know. Then hold it. But he said, I can't hold it, bro. Like, you know, it's business. But he still, no, but he still said, okay, I'm going to pitch you on 200 screens. [2:20:57] and you could go and get to, you know, and he did it. You know what I mean? So... [2:21:02] All my films has always go to the cinema first. And if I have my way, every film I make will always start. [2:21:10] At a cinema. Have you ever tried using those? What's the Apple one, Jamie? Those Apple AR goggles? Apple Vision Pro. Apple Vision Pro. I heard watching movies on those is phenomenal. Yes. [2:21:24] Okay. Okay. [2:21:25] But you have to also design it for that, too. Oh, really? Yeah. I mean, to get the full experience because, come on, you're going like this. [2:21:31] And some there's been some artists who have been able to create stuff for that. It's almost like I mean, I won't say it's like the sphere. You have to be into the sphere. Yes. But only for a fight. [2:21:41] They had a UFC there. It was amazing. [2:21:44] I love it there. But Darren Aronofsky had did a movie made directly for the sphere. In fact, there's another movie they're doing. They're doing another movie right now that they showed me a clip of.

[2:21:55] that's going to be made in the sphere. And it's actually very sports-based. [2:21:59] And so it's crazy. And of course, The Wizard of Oz. I heard that's nuts. Yeah, I've seen that there. You saw The Wizard of Oz? I heard there's all sorts of crazy new effects, and they added a bunch of stuff to the movie. It's amazing. Yeah. It's amazing. And it's fucking... [2:22:13] But the sphere is amazing anyway, right? It's an incredible experience. This is a new thing AMC has just shown recently and announced called Screen X. It's 270 degrees. It's going to surround the audience in some way. Well, that's how you get people to go back to the movie theater. Give them something like this where they're like, what? It's kind of like recut. So it might be a fun way to go back and maybe see a movie you really liked. Oh, like see Avatar in that? Or Alien? They got the Matrix like that now. Yeah, that's that Cosm. That's kind of like the sphere thing. Oh. [2:22:43] This just sort of is announced. It's only in two cities right now. There's a place... [2:22:47] I know there's a place in Dallas where they show UFC fights. Yeah, that's Cosm. That's Cosm? Yeah, that's for the Matrix thing. That's nuts, man. I love that he got the answers. Yeah. Yeah. [2:22:59] He's a genius. He is. But with the place in Dallas, the Cosm place, like you're seated here, and the screen is like 60 feet tall, and it's right in front of you. And you're watching the fights. Yeah. [2:23:10] As if [2:23:11] This is the Matrix. Well, so this is the Matrix. Yeah. [2:23:14] Yeah, they worked with the film company to sort of remake it and add extra stuff. Oh, wow. [2:23:21] There's also a new screen I just saw. I think it's going to be in Clearwater, Florida. It's going to be the world's biggest screen. See if you can show... I'm going to show you the fight thing. Yeah, show me fight scenes. Yeah.

[2:23:32] Like people were watching the fights there. I was like, okay, that might actually be better than being there live. Right. [2:23:40] Like, look how crazy the size of the screen is. Right. Right. [2:23:43] but we were watching [2:23:44] Like you're sitting right there [2:23:46] I mean, that fight is gigantic. [2:23:49] It's huge because the thing about going to see the fights live, look at how big that is. You can fall away. Yeah. Show that again. Like, look at that. Look how nuts that is. Right. [2:23:58] That is nuts. You don't get to see these camera angles at home either, which is awesome. Not like that. Not like that. I love this because this is giving me hope, bro. Like everything you just showed me is giving me hope for cinema. Right. And this is like cheaper than buying tickets. And this is better than any ticket you could ever buy for the fights. Like better than anything. Better than my seat. And I was sitting... [2:24:22] Cage side. How much a ticket like this would cost? That's a good question. They do sell tickets for this. I don't know. [2:24:29] Click on that one. [2:24:31] May 9th. [2:24:33] How much does that cost? [2:24:34] $40. $100. If you want to sit prior real close, you have $20 to get inside. [2:24:39] Okay, general omission is $20. What is the front row? Where's the screen? The display is right there. What are those, like right there where it says two? I don't know where you'd want to be. [2:24:47] Well, like... 67. [2:24:50] How much? 167? That's a bargain compared to how much it would cost if you actually went to see the fight. [2:24:57] Nice and it's probably a better experience plus you get commentary you get to hear everything and you're right there and then it's not just like being at home Which is great because there's a bunch of people you're experiencing with so it adds to the exact and the energy That's the knock I was gonna say with the vision pro is you're it's still to right now you're by yourself by itself kind of for me I'm a such like single guy in my apartment with a dog and

[2:25:20] Perfect. If you're out homeless to anybody, you're like, well, I can watch it. I don't know. Right. I have five of these. Catch up to me later. Like, could you watch it with a chick where you hold hands and you both have Vision Pro and you both start at the same time? Three, two, one, go. That's funny. That's me and my wife on a plane. Oh, you do that? Even on the way here, bro, we watch. Oh, Sebastian. How do you say Sebastian? The last name is he's a. Maniscalco. [2:25:50] Yeah, thank you, bro. Oh, the comedian. Yeah. Yeah. We watched him. He's funny. Hilarious. He's funny, motherfucker, bro. Very funny. And so... [2:25:57] Yeah, so we do that every time though, but we watch them on the way so I don't want to see one of us to me laughing and she ain't laughing yet so. [2:26:03] We hit the button at the same time. And that guy's crazy. He's funny. Yeah, that's the thing. They should have like simultaneous viewing option. [2:26:13] Are you going to watch it with someone else? Would you like to view it simultaneously and then have them sync up with each other? One plane does that. One plane does that. What airline was that? [2:26:22] I... um... [2:26:25] Qantas oh okay I think Qantas is up on that well they got those 16 hour flights they got to make things interesting yeah they got to say it's actually it says watch with a friend oh yeah that's smart yeah that's smart [2:26:38] Yeah, it's interesting. Like what is the next level past AR with those goggles? It's going to be an immersive experience where you're actually – we had the people from Perplexity who were here earlier today and we were talking about how people with AI and all this stuff, they're going to want more human experiences like going to see a live concert or seeing a sporting event live.

[2:27:03] Yeah. [2:27:05] Until it's completely immersive and then it's like you're playing a video game, but you're in World of Warcraft or you're in Battlefield Earth or whatever whatever game you're playing. I think yeah, I think for that form of entertainment of video game Yes, but I still think [2:27:21] Because even... [2:27:23] It's more senses, bro. It ain't just the sight and sound. It's the smell. Yeah, but what if they can recreate that? What if they get the technology where you can create a movie, but the person who is watching the movie is standing on the street, like in the opening scene where those girls pick that dude up in that Saab convertible? What if you're standing, you feel the street, and you watch the dude get in the car? [2:27:52] But you're saying at home by yourself? Yeah. Well, you'll be terrified in my film. Yeah, of course. But you'll be in it. You'll be in it. That'll be interesting. I think that's coming, man. I think that's coming. Well, if that comes, reach out to me and I'll write a script. Right. Then make sure that we fucking hit you with it right. Right. You're going to have to capitalize on all the different... [2:28:14] things that can take place what do you think about that uh that do you remember the sob fucking 900 oh yeah right a friend of mine had one of those it was a cool car when they were they were interesting looking they were like futuristic they were different than any other car that's why in the film i was like there was like well what kind of car you want i was like [2:28:33] Give me a sob. Yeah. Why? I said, well, I still make them.

[2:28:36] I don't think so. I think they might have. No, I don't think they definitely don't make. [2:28:40] I don't know. That's a good question. I know they make Volvo still. Yeah, I was in a Volvo. I don't know if they still make SOBs. No, I'm bankrupt in 2011. [2:28:53] Yeah, no more sobs. But the punchline for me was that this sop, and I'll give you one spoiler of the film. [2:29:00] as you finish the second half of it. [2:29:04] There's no time. [2:29:06] So I removed the time from the film so you don't know what year you're in. And that's why you'll see [2:29:13] decide but then you'll see when they when they're playing their video game and shit uh... [2:29:18] They playing with AR goggles. And a glove that don't exist. Right. I thought that too. When I was seeing a movie, I go, is that real? Yeah, the idea is that. I'm glad you brought that up. [2:29:29] I want that to happen. I want to see one day I can play a basketball game like this. Right, right, right. That would be dope, right? That would be. Yeah. They're getting real close to stuff like that. They're getting real close to stuff like that. We have an AR game out there that you – it's a zombie game. And you put the headphones on, the headset on, and you run around and you have an actual gun and you're shooting zombies. Right, yeah. And you're pointing it at it and it's like they're getting really close. [2:29:59] I'll show you something I discovered. Shout out to this guy. I think he's doing this all on his own. I found him and tweeted at him one day, but he didn't answer. Daniel Habib is his name. He's got this company called True3D.

[2:30:10] he's done this with two movies so far and I think you have to be in the theater to experience it [2:30:14] But it's kind of exactly what we're talking about. He converted a movie, I think Insidious, a scary movie. Oh, that's a scary movie. [2:30:21] he's not showing you what, because he's being smart. He's also developing it still. [2:30:25] And he also did it with Interstellar just recently. Whoa. And I almost flew to New York just so I could go see it because I was very curious. [2:30:33] This is cool. It looks awesome. Yeah, it looks cool. So he adapted it to the Vision Pro? Yeah, these are just in MetaQuest headsets, I believe, and you probably have to be at the theater because I think that's where the sound's coming from. He probably looked it up. As the user watching it, you get to decide how… [2:30:48] in depth this becomes because if you want to see the people next to you can sort of like [2:30:52] go like level two and still see your neighbor or go level four and be like fully in the room and you can't see anybody else. You can maybe just touch them because you know they're there. I like how some people are jumping and then there's some people that are like dead on the inside. [2:31:11] Ah, interesting. So you can either be super scared or you can... [2:31:16] know and not be scared that... [2:31:18] someone's going to come from behind you. Why would you... [2:31:21] Pass up. Maybe it's... This seems like it could fucking give you a heart attack. Yeah, maybe it's people with weak hearts. Let me know when I'm going to get freaked out. And also, Dolby... I saw Dolby made this thing, these glasses. Have you seen these Dolby glasses, Rob? No. No. [2:31:38] that, [2:31:39] that, uh,

[2:31:40] Dude, you can hear shit, bro. [2:31:42] like surround sound [2:31:45] With glasses on. [2:31:47] Toby, yeah, I mean, I hope I don't not be feeling a secret. What is it doing different? [2:31:52] Like, what do you mean you can hear things? You can watch, see, and hear. Yeah. And don't these things. So it's surround sound. Yeah. Glasses. Yeah. And so the glasses, is it projecting it into your inner ear? Like, how is it doing? Does it plug into your ear? Yeah. [2:32:06] No, it doesn't even plug into your ear. So it's one of those things that sits above the ear on the outside, like pressing against your skull? Yeah, they kind of... They have headphones like that, right? [2:32:14] I've seen that. Yeah, I've seen some headphones that give you 12.1. [2:32:19] They're like earbuds and they don't go in your ear. They like sit on the skull. Yeah, see if you can find those Dolby glasses. I don't know if – [2:32:27] I went to Dolby. [2:32:30] Some months ago. Is this a spoiler alert? That's why I said you can't edit this shit. We could if we can't. [2:32:38] If you're not supposed to know. [2:32:42] It's shown some 3D glasses they have, but it didn't say the sound is coming out of them. [2:32:46] I would imagine if Dolby's making him sound as involved. It has to be, right? [2:32:50] Yeah, Dolby cinema. Oh, it's 3d. They're 3d glasses. I don't know. No, no, no, bro. Listen, I put them on, bro. You can hear shit. Hmm. So did you put them on to watch a movie? Like, what did you put them on to watch? Yeah, I put them on like they had a whole demo room. I thought I was looking at something. [2:33:07] Mmm. [2:33:09] And it sounded like I was in the room with...

[2:33:13] It's not like I was in a movie theater, but I took the glasses off. Oh, look, this is what it is. So it's showing you everything in 3D. You need to have the glasses, I think, to get the test. [2:33:23] And the sound is connected. That's 2021. [2:33:29] So this is five years old already. [2:33:31] Again, this might not be. So this is a vision, but what about this Adobe Atmos? Atmos is the sound. [2:33:38] Plus Dolby Vision HDR. [2:33:41] *pops* [2:33:42] 12.61. What year is that? [2:33:49] Hmm. [2:33:52] 2024. [2:33:55] Well... [2:33:58] Oh, okay. [2:34:03] That's different. That's where you're home. That's having your system. [2:34:08] But they got some shit with it. It's in the glasses, bro. [2:34:10] Hmm. Anyway. Well, we're in an interesting time when it comes to technology and all this. Yeah. And entertainment. VR, VR stuff and where it's going. [2:34:20] I'm happy about it. Are you? Yeah, it's interesting. I mean, I know a lot of people are freaked out about AI. There's a lot of that. A lot of people are freaked out about AI music. A lot of people are freaked out about AI replacing actors and their ability to generate images and video. [2:34:36] I... [2:34:37] I... [2:34:39] I believe AI to be a tool. [2:34:41] I'm from the hip hop generation, right? So we sampling. Mm-hmm.

[2:34:46] a record [2:34:47] and therefore it's a digital replication [2:34:50] of the record. It's not the record. Right. And especially when we're sampling it at 16-bit or 12-bit or some bit that's not even [2:34:59] where the computer or the AI or the chip has to fill in the pieces. This is why you get that sound you hear from hip hop. So I always embraced the technology. [2:35:14] I also know that it's nothing like the real thing. [2:35:17] you know [2:35:17] I put on a [2:35:19] You know, even if even if I [2:35:21] put on a piece of vinyl, [2:35:23] and put that needle on it, [2:35:25] and play it because in my house I have it I got all type of setups right but when we really want to have a good time we just put on the fucking vinyl. [2:35:33] And it sounds so much better. [2:35:37] better, different, or... It's got depth to it. Exactly. It crackles. Exactly. It's something else. Yeah. So... [2:35:43] It's nothing like the real thing. [2:35:46] In between time, in the meantime, let's enjoy. [2:35:51] you know, like you said, if you could, if I could make you feel [2:35:54] like you in Hawaii and you don't have to leave your house. Cool. But if you could go to Hawaii, you know what I mean? Go to Hawaii. I was trying to tell the AI industry or AI community that we got to change the A. [2:36:11] It shouldn't be [2:36:14] Considered artificial.

[2:36:16] It's digital intelligence. [2:36:18] Well, keep the A because you can't, but don't change. The A could be... [2:36:24] Assisted, accumulated [2:36:27] Depending on the situation, find the find the a word. [2:36:31] that makes it... [2:36:33] describe [2:36:35] But you're doing it. Like for instance, right now it's assisting him. This is an assist. It's assisting intelligence. [2:36:42] Right, artificial sounds cheap. [2:36:46] You don't want artificial nothing. If you came to your girl and you proposed to her with some artificial diamonds, it ain't working. Girls don't even like real diamonds that are man-made. [2:36:58] Isn't that weird that is? They have a hard time selling real diamonds that are made in a laboratory. [2:37:04] I don't. Yeah. Is that a real diamond? It's a real diamond. I mean, molecularly. Yeah, it's a real diamond. [2:37:10] It's just not created by the earth over time. It's created in the laboratory. But if you look at it, it's a real, I mean, it's not like a fake Ferrari. It's a fucking diamond. [2:37:21] You know what I mean? Like, it doesn't have to do things. Like, if you go to China and you buy a fake iPhone, who knows what the fuck's in there? It probably won't work with Apple, won't work with the iTunes store, the Apple store. But a diamond is just a fucking rock. They can take that carbon and compress it and make an artificial diamond. And the lady's like, no, I don't want it. I want a real one. I'm going to stick with the ladies on that one. Weird.

[2:37:51] I'm gonna stick with the ladies on it because I think the value of the diamond [2:37:55] is the time that it took to become existence. Unfortunately, diamonds are harvested in a similar way as cobalt. [2:38:04] Oh, well, now you put it there. Yeah, that's why they call them blood diamonds. Right, right. Yeah, so if you get a diamond from a lab, there's no blood. It's just a machine that's compressing carbon, and it looks beautiful. And I would – look, obviously I'm not a chick, and I don't own any diamonds. But if I did, I'd want the lab diamond. I'm like, give me that dope shit that some scientist figured out how to make. Basically, you'll go vegan on the diamonds. Yeah. Because how big can they make them? How big can they make a lab-grown diamond? [2:38:34] And how do they even tell? [2:38:36] Like, how do you tell whether or not a diamond's a lab diamond? Like, is there a way that they can test them? [2:38:42] Or is it just like provenance? [2:38:45] like you know based on it coming from... [2:38:48] De Beers or wherever but it was their way that but if there's a way that they could test them bless you and [2:38:54] Bless you. If there's a way that they could test them, then it's not real. Right, right, right. Unless there's a way, maybe they're perfect in a way that doesn't exist in the diamond world. I don't know. I'm guessing. [2:39:05] Completely guessing. Look at the size of that fucking rock. 75 carat. [2:39:12] The largest ever grown. [2:39:16] Okay, so that's a fake, not a fake diamond, a real diamond made in a lab that's 75 carats. How much does that bitch cost?

[2:39:24] Thank you. [2:39:27] 42 carat diamond for $88,000. Is that real? [2:39:32] Is that how much it costs? That's how much it costs? That's nothing. I wouldn't be buying it from this website, briglandsearth.com. Jamie, just give them your credit card. Don't worry about it. [2:39:43] That's real. You can tell. [2:39:45] Yeah, that might not be real. That one might not be real. But... [2:39:50] Let's find out what is a reputable site. [2:39:54] And how much is a reputable lab-grown diamond? How much? How much does that cost? [2:40:01] Largest faceted lab grown, $375,000. Do you know how much money that would cost if that was an actual diamond from the earth? Yeah. It would probably be $100 million. Exactly. [2:40:14] I'm not sure. [2:40:15] That's crazy. [2:40:16] Well, that's – how much would that cost? Find out how much that would cost if it was a real – I mean, is there even a real diamond that exists that's that big? [2:40:25] Shhh. [2:40:27] But $375,000? [2:40:30] The biggest one weighed 3,100 carats. [2:40:36] Whoa. When it was found in 1905. That's a real one. [2:40:40] Yeah. [2:40:41] Whoa. And it was cut into smaller ones. Look at that. Holy fuck. That's what I'm saying. It took a long time. The girl's like, I like that one. Give me that one. [2:40:51] How old, ask my man perplexity.

[2:40:56] How old is that diamond? Oh my God, it has to be millions and billions of years old. [2:41:01] . [2:41:02] Let's see what it's... [2:41:03] What does it say here? Does it say the age of it? [2:41:07] There you go. [2:41:08] That's nuts. [2:41:10] 1.18 billion years old. When it reached the surface. Oh, my God. That's what I'm saying. Now, how are you going to replicate that? [2:41:21] You can if you think so. With a machine. You say, with a machine. Yeah, it's better. Um... [2:41:26] So if you buy a lab-grown diamond versus a diamond that came from the earth, how can they tell the difference? Find that out. [2:41:35] Can you discern – put this into perplexity. How do you discern between a lab-grown diamond and a diamond that came from the earth? [2:41:45] Whether or not – how do you discern? Make a girl smell it. Get up on a tub like – I don't smell blood. Yeah, men can't tell, but women can. Their hair on the back of their neck sticks out. I don't like it. [2:42:03] It seems fake. It says you can't. [2:42:05] You can't. It says you can't? I mean, it's specialized scanners, which almost means in – Hold on. Let me read that to the audience. It says – Visual appearance is the same. Lab grown in natural diamonds are the same sparkle, hardness, and basic optical properties, so they look identical in jewelry. [2:42:20] Naked eye tests don't work. [2:42:22] Standard home tricks fog test scratch test only distinguished diamond from non-diamond not lab versus natural Standard diamond testers don't help thermal electric testers will say diamond for both lab-grown and natural stones Because their physical properties are essentially the same in other words You cannot reliably discern the origin of your on your own just by looking at it or using a simple tester and

[2:42:47] A jeweler, how do they do it? [2:42:49] Let's say, what does it say here? Literally, it seems like they write the word lab-grown that you can see under a microscope or something. Oh. There's a description of many lab-grown diamonds I inscribed. Why would you inscribe it? Because you're an asshole. Okay. I don't know. Okay, inclusions of growth features. If you make better, if you're like the best at it, if you're the Rolex of making lab-grown diamonds so people can't copy yours, maybe. Well, no, no. Here goes something that's interesting. It says... [2:43:16] lab grown [2:43:17] HP's [2:43:19] Ht and CBD diamonds can show characteristic of metallic inclusions and geometric patterns or growth striations that differ from most natural diamonds. But this is subtle and not always present. But there's a chance to dance, right? There's a chance. Natural diamonds tend to have more irregular geologic-looking inclusions. [2:43:40] Fluorescence patterns under UV, differences in how the stone fluoresces. [2:43:45] Under shortwave and longwave, UV light can hint at lab-grown versus natural, but interpretation requires training and comparison. Okay. Those are hints. That's interesting. But it says hints not guarantees, and many stones look ambiguous without proper instruments. [2:44:00] Okay. So she got to be she got to complain at the end of the day, right? She's got to bring it to a university. Yeah. Test this. Yeah, because she has to be, if she's dissatisfied, she has to, she really has to complain. Isn't it interesting, though, that [2:44:14] It's the same thing. [2:44:16] But...

[2:44:17] Some women want it to be from the earth and not from a lab, even though it's the same thing. [2:44:24] It's like if they could make you a banana and it tasted like a banana, it had all the vitamins of a banana, it looked like a banana. [2:44:32] But it wasn't grown on a banana tree. It just came out of a banana lab. [2:44:36] Would you be upset if somebody gave you the fake banana if it's exactly the same? That's a good question. Weird. [2:44:44] Well, well, well, bananas aren't. There's no status attached to a banana. Right. That we eat. But yeah. What about GMO? Are we anti GMO? [2:44:54] Yeah, but is it genetically modified if it's just a replica of a banana? I mean, a banana is probably a bad thing because you're putting it in your body. Right. But – [2:45:03] If it's something that is a complete... Here's a good one. Full fur versus a real fur. Right. Why would you complain if I came home with a... [2:45:15] Thank you. [2:45:15] Faux mink. Because some women want the actual animal to die so they can wear it. I want something to suffer in the snow and a trap around its neck. I don't know. It's weird. What movie was that? The Revenant, right? Yeah. That was a good one. That was crazy. Leonardo. Yeah. Yeah. [2:45:36] It was good because it also let us understand. I love the idea that [2:45:42] That there was a business. [2:45:45] Sadly... [2:45:46] And motherfuckers going looking for animals to kill the brain back and make a jacket. Yeah, still is.

[2:45:53] Still is. Still is. You know, there's a company in China that makes Rolexes. [2:45:59] Exactly. [2:46:01] to a real Rolex but it's not a real Rolex. Because of 3D printing now, they can scan every individual part that a Rolex – so they'll buy a Rolex and then – [2:46:14] recreate exactly. [2:46:16] To the same type of steel that they use, the same quartz for the whatever the fuck is the term. The face, the bend. What is the term I'm looking for? The lens? It's not the lens. What is it called? Bezel? [2:46:31] No, no, no, the glass part that's in the front. [2:46:34] God, how can I forget that? [2:46:36] No. [2:46:38] I forget what it's called. It's one of those brain farts where my brain is like just not remembering what it means. The watch crystal, I'll say. The crystal. That's it. Just the crystal. Jesus. But – [2:46:50] They take it and they recreate everything with the exact same materials, but it's like $500 as opposed to – [2:46:58] 11,000 right but it is exact like you bring it to a watch person and it'll take them hours to figure out whether or not this is an actual Rolex or not they have to use microscopes they have to get up in there and look at the finish and the way the hands are made so what you so we're getting better and better and better would you wear it or? [2:47:17] Yeah, I would wear it. I mean, I wouldn't because I have a real one. But if I didn't have a real one, I would wear it. But that's – see, now – You know who has a fake one? Usyk, the heavyweight champion of the world. Alexander Usyk wears a fake Rolex. It's hilarious. You know what? That's my big question. Like –

[2:47:33] Like I said, we said some of [2:47:35] you know, the AI or talking about whatever it is. I think anything is good until the real thing shows up. [2:47:42] I think when the real thing shows up, [2:47:45] it's going to be real. And it's something about the real thing, whatever that is, whatever that thing is, that's just like, [2:47:52] It ain't going to never not be real. Right. You know what I mean? There's something about like a real Rolex. It comes from the company Rolex. It's been making watches for 100 years, and they figured out the technology. They figured out how to – because these – like a Rolex is an automatic watch. So it's got – it's moving on – like this is an Omega, and this watch is automatic too. So this is moving on – [2:48:16] It's working on my movement. So my movement winds it. So every time I move my arm, it winds it up in the second hand. And it's incredibly precise, accurate within a couple seconds a day. And somebody had to figure that out. [2:48:31] Right. And they figured it out a long fucking time ago. These guys figured out how to make the perfect amount of spring tension, these little tiny gears that move around in there. And how long does it last? [2:48:45] How long would it stay charged for? [2:48:49] I don't have too much. I do got a couple of Rolexes, but I don't know. As you see, I don't know. Oh, wow. They'll last for decades and decades. Right. I mean, you could buy – there's a place called Bob's Watches online. You could buy like a 1967 Rolex. Okay. And it still works perfectly. Okay. Yeah.

[2:49:05] Yeah, I mean, they last forever. And sometimes they need service, and all that means is, like, they need to clean them out, and maybe they replace a spring or some shit. Right. But then it's back to work. I've seen one in, well, for the ones that's making in China, you know what I mean? That's, you know, and the guys. They're called super clones. Yeah, the super cloners, and you can't afford a real one, and you want to be cool with a fake one. Baller on a budget. Baller on a budget. We're not knocking that. But I saw one that my wife wanted. She didn't get it. I told her to get it. [2:49:35] She thought she'd get it somewhere else. In Brussels, right? They had... [2:49:41] Have you ever seen an orange Rolex? No. Exactly, bro. They had it on display for sale. And she never seen it either. I'm not into watches, but she's kind of getting there into it. And we was kind of moving fast and shit. And she was like... [2:49:56] You know, she saw it and she wanted it. [2:49:58] I said, well, go ahead and get it. I'll wait. [2:50:00] So no, we can move, I'll get it somewhere else. [2:50:03] You can't get it nowhere else. You only could get it from that one location in Brussels. Oh, so Rolex makes it specifically just for them? Yeah. Well, there's some companies that customize watches. Yeah. [2:50:16] that you could buy where they take a regular Rolex and they customize it. And the problem with that is [2:50:22] Even though it's expensive, it's not worth as much to some people because they've altered it. Right. This is not altered, though. Oh, it comes only from Rolex. And they only sell it. They only sell it there. Oh, wow. You know what I mean? See if you can find out one. People love exclusivity.

[2:50:40] Hall of Time in Brussels. Rolex Explorer II, the primary model, featuring a single bright orange 24-hour hand. [2:50:49] Often found to authorized dealers like Hall of Time in Brussels. [2:50:54] Wow. Interesting. So I got to take her all the way back to Brussels to get it. Oh, it's so pretty, though. [2:51:00] I bet you can buy it online. [2:51:01] If you buy it online, you probably have to pay a premium. [2:51:04] Look at that, $11,000. You can buy it online. [2:51:07] $210,000? Yeah, that's the more likely right there. That's the worst. Yeah. $210,000. Maybe I won't be going back to Brussels. Jeez. [2:51:16] It's just crazy how much... [2:51:18] cheaper those super clones are that look exactly the same. I bet you after this podcast, a super clone is going to say, he's going to make those now. See if you can find one of those super clone sites from China. [2:51:33] Because what they're doing is just taking advantage of the fact that, like, everybody wants these status symbols. And that's what a lot of it is. You know, it's like, so here it is. [2:51:41] What is this company called? [2:51:44] Superluxuryreps.com. [2:51:46] Which one do you want? [2:51:50] Let's go with the – scroll up a little bit, please. Right there, the Daytona. That's the classic. Black dial Daytona. That's – ooh, look at that blue one right there to the right. The one – yeah, look at that motherfucker. Click on that. $1,600. That's not a bar, right? Yeah. Boy, that would be so much more money. Look how pretty that is. That looks perfect. So no one would ever know.

[2:52:16] There's a pretty good chance that's a picture of a real one, too. [2:52:20] Good point. Good point. Damn, Jamie's taking levels ahead. I like that. I like that. That's true. They might be fucking with you. When you get it home, it ain't like it was in the picture. The Whopper is not the size it is on the commercial. That looks so good, though. [2:52:35] That's a sticker. [2:52:36] Okay, so luxury, super luxury reps. Let's put this into a search, super luxury reps. [2:52:46] Reviews. [2:52:49] See, how good are the watches from Super Luxury Rips? That's a fake one? That's crazy. Yeah, look at that. [2:52:56] Super clone date just 36 millimeter floral dial thousand bucks. Oh, trust pilot. That's a good guy. That's crazy. They just stuck that on there. Come on. This is in China. What's app us? Yeah, this is in China. Video proof. [2:53:13] We always need video proof on every website. Show me video proof. Oh, how about, okay, go to Richard Millet because those watches are like a million bucks. You have a video proof of one right here. Oh, video proof. Show me the video proof. Someone's opening it. [2:53:26] All right. [2:53:27] Vertical screen. Oh, so they're getting very close to it. Oh, yeah. I guess maybe they're trying to show the microscope. Yeah. So you're seeing all the action and all the movement. So Richard Millet watch. Click on those, please. Because... [2:53:40] Um, that's like a million dollar watch. Those watches are insanely expensive from here. [2:53:45] How much did it cost? $1,600 or so. $1,400. Yeah. So $1,400 or half a million. Right. Learn where to shop. You know what I just learned from watching that thing, though?

[2:53:56] The other one you had with the moving gears, it reminded me of the quantum computer. [2:54:01] Oh, okay. Yeah. My brain is bugged out. Those things are weird. But I saw... I saw... I saw... [2:54:10] The science of a quantum computer there, right? So that's stuff moving. Yeah, because it takes all those gears. It takes that well the quantum computers are so crazy because all that shit is all cooling and [2:54:20] And the actual computer is like the size of a Triscuit. Right. You kind of, you think about the human heart, right? [2:54:28] It's doing a lot of fucking work. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. And it's not really a pump. [2:54:35] That's what they're saying now. Yeah, it's like a cycle. It's like a vortex. A vortex, yeah. But it's – I used to think it was a pump. [2:54:43] But it makes sense, right? The quantum computer, the brain, all these things, [2:54:48] It's almost like our biology is, [2:54:51] is teaching science is now catching up to the science of our biology and now finding a way to mechanically. [2:54:58] immolate our biology. [2:55:00] So what superluxuryreps.com is, they sell – Perplexity says they sell superclone luxury watches, emphasizing that their pieces mirror the design, weight, and performance of genuine models. They present themselves as a premium alternative to cheap replicas, focusing on workmanship, durability. We just did an ad for these people. We basically just gave them an ad. I guarantee you some – [2:55:24] Fakers are going to go there.

[2:55:27] You're not thinking you're buying the real thing here and you shouldn't. [2:55:31] But the thing is, it's like it mirrors the performance. It looks exactly the same. That's my point. It's like, why does a Rolex cost $10? [2:55:40] that much money then. If they can make it for $1,400, why is it [2:55:45] Like how much does a Daytona cost if you bought it retail? [2:55:50] Like, what is a Rolex? Let's take a guess. I gotta imagine it's $15,000. [2:55:55] I got to imagine it's at least 10 times more. [2:55:58] What does a Rolex Daytona cost? So you're saying that the material is all the same. It's the same. Yeah. [2:56:04] But they're stealing the idea. Yes, they're stealing everything. They're stealing the design, the idea. So when you're paying the $15,000, you're paying for the idea, the design, and everything, not just the material. So $30,000. [2:56:17] So it's more than 10. Look at that. [2:56:21] Yeah. [2:56:23] So that black one, the black-faced one is exactly like the one that they had there. Yeah. White. That's pretty – [2:56:29] But you can sell that though. The thing is that comes with paperwork and you can sell it probably for even more than 30 afterwards. That's the difference. That's the difference, right? Yeah. It can appreciate and not depreciate. And it has serial numbers and paperwork and all that. It's an actual investment. [2:56:46] I'm going to take a moment to, once again, this is the RZA on the Joe Rogan Experience. Can I do this? Yes, please. Okay, thanks. This is the RZA on the Joe Rogan Experience. They have a new film coming out, May 1st in theaters. It's called One Spoon of Chocolate. Quentin Tarantino presents the RZA's One Spoon of Chocolate in theaters everywhere, May 1st. It follows the story of an ex-military convict trying to find a better way in life. Ends up in a small town and shit goes bananas.

[2:57:16] Dun, dun, dun. [2:57:21] Action-packed. Bone-shattering. And available in streaming in maybe a month or so. Yeah, maybe a month or so. Maybe 45 days. Go see it in the movie theaters. And you know what? Go to the theaters, yo. You know how come? Because [2:57:34] Tell me if you agree with this. [2:57:36] I don't care where you get popcorn from anywhere else. I like Disneyland. I like the amusement parks. But no popcorn. [2:57:44] touches movie theater popcorn. They know what they're doing. They got something going on there. But whatever that butter is, what is that shit? [2:57:50] That stuff, when you go to the machine, you press the button? Oh, I don't know what that is. What's in there? I think it's vegan. It can't be good for you. It can't be good. It can't be good for you. Well, at the Alamo Draft House, they use real butter? Oh, they use real butter. Yeah, at the Alamo. Alamo Draft House. You ever been to Sinopolis? Yes. Yes. Sinopolis is awesome. That's his joint, right? Oh, they have everything there. Is that a date night? Yeah, man. Beautiful seats, like laying back. They have waiters and waitresses. Do you and the wife like going to see movies? Oh, yeah. Yeah. [2:58:20] your favorite theater i love synopolis that's my favorite yeah that's the that's the place because the seats are the best they recline they're perfect yeah they always they know what they're doing plus it costs a little bit more to go there so like no one's on their phone making noises people aren't talking you know what i mean i agree now the crazy thing i will say though synopolis is my favorite theater as well for date night with my wife but i'm [2:58:46] I strongly believe, first from my experience, that it was the Alamo Draft House that pioneered

[2:58:53] that whole concept. Oh, yeah. Of food. Yeah, bro. I remember coming out here [2:58:58] I don't know. It might have been 2004 or something. Like it was just one Alamo draft house. I think guys had it on on 6th Street or 6th Street. That's my building now. That's the mothership. Yeah. [2:59:09] I bought that place. That's the Ritz. Bro, that's my school, bro. Yeah, that's the Ritz. I'm saying that's why I used to come down to the QT. I mean, that's my film college. Yeah. I've seen so many movies there. [2:59:23] I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, six movies in one day. Tarantino screen death proof there. Yeah. Yeah. They, they had so many movies out of that place. That place was everything, man. It used to be a rock and roll club. It was a, at one point in time it was a pool hall. Right. It's been a bunch of different things. Well, you own my college now. Yeah. It's a dope spot too. It's, it's a perfect place. And it's, we still have the original marquee because it's all the historical society. Right. Right. So it's a building from 1927. You got fried pickles in there? Because we don't sell food. No. [2:59:53] No food. No food. No. We're a comedy club. There's food next door. There's a pizza joint on one side, a Mexican joint on the other side. There's plenty of food. You don't want to be eaten while you're laughing. We have one thing. We sell jokes. Nice. Jokes and drinks. That's it. I got to pop in and... [3:00:09] And who's your next guest? Oh, we always. I mean, I do shows there every Tuesday and Wednesday, and every weekend we have national headliners that are there. I don't even know who's there this weekend. [3:00:21] Who's there this weekend, John? [3:00:23] But it's –

[3:00:25] you know, [3:00:25] It's set up with two rooms, just like the Alamo was. There was two theaters there. So we have two rooms. We have a small room that seats like 110 people. Nice. And then the big room, it's like 250 people. Nice, nice. And it's set up perfect. We had it all, like the ceilings lowered and everything tightened up and set up. The mothership. Comedy mothership. Rich Voss. Rich Voss, my boy. [3:00:46] My boy, Rich. He's awesome. The RZA. [3:00:50] I'm glad we did it this time without Donnell. Sorry, Donnell. I love you to death. [3:00:54] But it was better without you. Better without you. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Indian gave you. Yeah. I got something coming to you, kid. [3:01:05] A spoonful of chocolate. [3:01:07] I don't... [3:01:07] Everywhere. Everywhere. May 1st. All movie theaters. See it in the movie theater first. That's definitely where you want to see it. You want to have that experience with a bunch of other people. Indeed. And thank you, brother. It was always good to see you. And Wu-Tang forever. Wu-Tang forever. Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Bong, bong. Here we come. Here we go. All right. Bye, everybody. [3:01:37] you [3:01:39] This episode is brought to you by the Farmer's Dog. Here's a fun fact. Research shows that dogs who maintain a healthy weight can live up to two and a half years longer on average than dogs who are overweight. [3:01:50] Isn't that wild and also kind of obvious at the same time? So why is feeding vague scoops of ultra-processed kibble still the status quo for most dog owners? Healthy alternatives exist, and trust me, I know.

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